6 speed transplant: upgrade or nonsense?

[FlyingDutchman]

I am making up a list (with a life of it's own) of things to do on my 1993 Audi 80 2.0 16v, as I believe in upgrading parts, not just replacing. This of course, makes life interesting to the point of madness..at times. I sense a lot of Audi fanatics experience the same, though.
Nonetheless, I have a question (1st of many).
Will the 6 speed gearbox fit my car? If so, where is the difference in gear ratios, from 1st through the whole range? What could the effect be performance / economy-wise?
(Sorry, it always starts with just 1 question...)

[20vcqdriver]

Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman

I am making up a list (with a life of it's own) of things to do on my 1993 Audi 80 2.0 16v, as I believe in upgrading parts, not just replacing. This of course, makes life interesting to the point of madness..at times. I sense a lot of Audi fanatics experience the same, though.
Nonetheless, I have a question (1st of many).
Will the 6 speed gearbox fit my car? If so, where is the difference in gear ratios, from 1st through the whole range? What could the effect be performance / economy-wise?
(Sorry, it always starts with just 1 question...)

Not sure with the 4 cylinder engines! If the block is the same as the later 4 cylinders you have a possiblity of doing this, but not sure.
Have all the info necessary if it was a 5 cylinder...

[Coxy]

can't really see the advantages of fitting a 6 speed box to the 2.0l engine?

[FlyingDutchman]

To be honest, after reading some feedback, neither am I, unless the power plant is upgraded as well, as some mentioned. Time to rethink!

[FlyingDutchman]

Thank you, I will do some more homework on this, it seems as if I will have to rethink process and change powerplant to really get the benefit. I will keep you in mind should I stumble upon a 5 cylinder, which seems to be very popular and full of grunt!
Enjoy.

[Coxy]

Unless it's the 20v or 20v turbo lump (S2/S2 avant), then you'll find the 2.0 16v engine on a similar par performance wise with the earlier 2.2 or 2309 5 cylinder 10v engines.
You just don't get the same grunt with a 4 cylinder engine though! Although a decent exhaust system would help that a little!

in fact, your engine should be 135hp and the 10v 5 cyl engines are 134hp.

[FlyingDutchman]

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Originally Posted by Coxy

Unless it's the 20v or 20v turbo lump (S2/S2 avant), then you'll find the 2.0 16v engine on a similar par performance wise with the earlier 2.2 or 2309 5 cylinder 10v engines.
You just don't get the same grunt with a 4 cylinder engine though! Although a decent exhaust system would help that a little!

in fact, your engine should be 135hp and the 10v 5 cyl engines are 134hp.

Thanks, at least the collected info confirms that all of you are in the same line of thought, I have learned more in 3 days than in the same number of years with my GTX'es. The bigger engine=more grunt makes sense.
Much appreciated!

[Coxy]

The other choice is look at a more modern engine implant. Not sure how easy as I've not seen it done, but a 1.8T lump would always be a good talking point at the pub!


let alone the 2.7 biturbo V6 lump!

[vag80]

an 1.8t will fit in there easly,i think even a v8 may fit as the engine bay in the b3 and b4 is big

[ChrisG]

several V8 conversions done in Europe, I've seen pictures ( a dark green series 4 comes to mind)

V8 into B2 4000 quattros in the USA.......silver one on Audiworld with loads of piccies of the various stages........ cannot find the piccies now I looked many months ago and they seem to have gone