water ingress

quattrokid · 09-05-09, 05:43 PM

Archie has pissed himself again!!

Thought it was sorted but in heavy rain fall I am getting water into the boot resess on the right side and a rather concernable amount of water under the drivers seat in the rear and front footwells and a bit on the passenger side footwell.

suspect its the sunroof drain but cant be sure, there is no water on the inside of any windows.

Suggestions please...

NO the windows wasnt left open

SHORT of taking the front seats and carpet section out and sitting under a hose, any ideas please?

darreno'd' · 09-05-09, 06:12 PM

Membranes in tact behind the door cards ?

quattrokid · 09-05-09, 06:39 PM

no idea

how do i check that
if the door is properly closed then wouldnt the door seal keep out water? it doesnt get wet when i wash the sills and spray water under the door to rinse.....

not that I have checked mind you. Asuumed it was dry and sorted out when the sunroof drain was cleared out.

if the membrane had failed....would it allow about half an inch of water in? if the door membrane was leaking.... how the hell does it get into the boot?

Coxy · 09-05-09, 06:43 PM

Would the water in the boot be coming from one of the rear light clusters?

john johnson · 09-05-09, 06:50 PM

the rear light clusters should have proper audi mastic around ( chat to amanda ) and as you have had archie painted tenner says its not been replaced with the pukka stuff, if the door membranes are missing water actually gets in viaa the weatherstrip and piddles through the inner door , take the door card off to check rich

quattrokid · 09-05-09, 07:06 PM

nice one fellas... Coxy there was a slight trace of water coming from the driver side light cluster, there was about 5mm of water in the resess.... but isnt this quiet a lot considering the gap between the cluster and the body?

Amanda's suggestion that Helen shuts me in the boot with a torch wasnt such a bad idea after all

I had better show H were the boot latch is first

What kind of sealant can I use fopr the lights? would a bath silicone sealant do?

membranes

will tackle that tomorrow.

Thanks guys great heads up

vag80 · 09-05-09, 07:15 PM

don't use bath silicone you can buy proper sealer from any vag dealer it comes on a roll in abox i work
for a Seat dealer and we use that stuff on the metal membranes,i can get you part number and price on monday if you like

quattrokid · 09-05-09, 07:22 PM

please do, thanks

So if its on a roll how is it appplied, run it around the body edge then attach the light assembly and secure squeazing the seal into place?

this is great news since this has been bugging the hell out of me!!!!!

much appreciated folks

more worried now about the membranes, what if its split, can i still get them or is it the dreaded NLA situation?

vag80 · 09-05-09, 07:26 PM

no prob give you info monday evening

4v6 · 09-05-09, 07:27 PM

Its a bit like blu tack and you lay it around the seating area for the light, making sure its continuous so no gaps then fit the light cluster and carefully bolt it down to seal it.
Dont go mad or youll crack the light or break the bolts.

09-05-09, 06:12 PM	#2
darreno'd' Mr Sixty Thousand!! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: berkshire Posts: 1,729	Membranes in tact behind the door cards ? __________________ http://www.oesems.co.uk/

09-05-09, 06:39 PM	#3
quattrokid 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 9,654	no idea how do i check that if the door is properly closed then wouldnt the door seal keep out water? it doesnt get wet when i wash the sills and spray water under the door to rinse..... not that I have checked mind you. Asuumed it was dry and sorted out when the sunroof drain was cleared out. if the membrane had failed....would it allow about half an inch of water in? if the door membrane was leaking.... how the hell does it get into the boot? __________________ RS4 B5 (wife's / ours now ) S3 8L Imola Yellow S3 8L Nogaro blue UrWR SOLD UrS4 saloon (SOLD again) S4 Cabrio (SOLD) A4 cabrio 2.5 V6tdi (SOLD) 80 cabrio 2.6 V6 SOLD 90 quattro 10v SOLD 100 2.2e SOLD FOUNDING MEMBER the 200,000 Plus miles Club

09-05-09, 06:50 PM	#5
john johnson Moderator of sausages Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sheffield Posts: 13,331	the rear light clusters should have proper audi mastic around ( chat to amanda ) and as you have had archie painted tenner says its not been replaced with the pukka stuff, if the door membranes are missing water actually gets in viaa the weatherstrip and piddles through the inner door , take the door card off to check rich __________________ Mr OCD http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/jsquatts/ Daily rs4 b7 with buckets that play havoc with my piles And if you are reading this as James may would say ' you're a cock '

09-05-09, 07:06 PM	#6
quattrokid 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 9,654	nice one fellas... Coxy there was a slight trace of water coming from the driver side light cluster, there was about 5mm of water in the resess.... but isnt this quiet a lot considering the gap between the cluster and the body? Amanda's suggestion that Helen shuts me in the boot with a torch wasnt such a bad idea after all I had better show H were the boot latch is first What kind of sealant can I use fopr the lights? would a bath silicone sealant do? membranes will tackle that tomorrow. Thanks guys great heads up __________________ RS4 B5 (wife's / ours now ) S3 8L Imola Yellow S3 8L Nogaro blue UrWR SOLD UrS4 saloon (SOLD again) S4 Cabrio (SOLD) A4 cabrio 2.5 V6tdi (SOLD) 80 cabrio 2.6 V6 SOLD 90 quattro 10v SOLD 100 2.2e SOLD FOUNDING MEMBER the 200,000 Plus miles Club

09-05-09, 07:15 PM	#7
vag80 Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bracknell Posts: 1,967	don't use bath silicone you can buy proper sealer from any vag dealer it comes on a roll in abox i work for a Seat dealer and we use that stuff on the metal membranes,i can get you part number and price on monday if you like __________________ nothing like a bit of deep dish 200k club member 87-b3 80 83-4000 2 door

09-05-09, 06:43 PM	#4
Coxy 4 Ring Mafia Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: on the side of a hill in Shropshire! Posts: 28,215	Would the water in the boot be coming from one of the rear light clusters?

09-05-09, 07:22 PM	#8
quattrokid 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 9,654	please do, thanks So if its on a roll how is it appplied, run it around the body edge then attach the light assembly and secure squeazing the seal into place? this is great news since this has been bugging the hell out of me!!!!! much appreciated folks more worried now about the membranes, what if its split, can i still get them or is it the dreaded NLA situation? __________________ RS4 B5 (wife's / ours now ) S3 8L Imola Yellow S3 8L Nogaro blue UrWR SOLD UrS4 saloon (SOLD again) S4 Cabrio (SOLD) A4 cabrio 2.5 V6tdi (SOLD) 80 cabrio 2.6 V6 SOLD 90 quattro 10v SOLD 100 2.2e SOLD FOUNDING MEMBER the 200,000 Plus miles Club

09-05-09, 07:26 PM	#9
vag80 Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bracknell Posts: 1,967	no prob give you info monday evening __________________ nothing like a bit of deep dish 200k club member 87-b3 80 83-4000 2 door

09-05-09, 07:27 PM	#10
4v6 Ex Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,565	Its a bit like blu tack and you lay it around the seating area for the light, making sure its continuous so no gaps then fit the light cluster and carefully bolt it down to seal it. Dont go mad or youll crack the light or break the bolts.

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