Freedom of speech.

[rich.r]

Originally Posted by Emjay

I am allowed to raise it in the interest of freedom of speech

We don't have freedom of speech

[moonwatcher]

Originally Posted by b2_sport

some good points raised by The Real MSH! and Steev, and to further expand on what you said about Sikhism;

* Sikhs believe that there is only one God and this is the God of all religions
* Created the world for people to use and enjoy
* Created people and made them know the difference between right and wrong
* Sikh women have equal rights to men, because God is neither male or female
* Every person is equal and should be treated equally, there is no discrimination
* In the eyes of God, a kind act towards a human being shows respect to one of God's creatures, and is an act of worship towards God.

Far too many idiots using religion as a front for war, extremist ideology, dirty politics & personal gain.

My philosophy for some time has been as follows:
you either believe that there is a creator/god/deity/divine entity et al or you don't believe of their existence.

If you don't believe then we don't need to fight/disagree about differing faiths or beliefs.

If you do believe then by definition there can only be one creator therefore we ALL revere the same one, so why argue about our beliefs, you may attend church on Sunday and I may attend the synagogue on Friday or the local mosque but just because we do it differently isn't cause to beat each other to a pulp.

A similar scenario and more importantly is we all drive different cars, colour, model but we are still friends, get on with life, we are only here once, unless you believe otherwise (but that's another religion)

[Emjay]

Originally Posted by rich.r

We don't have freedom of speech

I do on here

[MSL]

God doesn't exist and the whole thing is a made up story, which makes it even more bizarre that people are arguing over it.

[moonwatcher]

Originally Posted by MSL

God doesn't exist and the whole thing is a made story, which makes it even more bizarre that people are arguing over it.

You are obviously far more intelligent than most on here because you can make absolute statements as to the (non)existence of a god etc. without being able to prove either way, that appears to be the difference between you and I, you can see by my post,.

If you don't believe then we don't need to fight/disagree about differing faiths or beliefs.

If you do believe then by definition there can only be one creator therefore we ALL revere the same one, so why argue about our beliefs, you may attend church on Sunday and I may attend the synagogue on Friday or the local mosque but just because we do it differently isn't cause to beat each other to a pulp.

I do agree that there is a whole heap of made up stories about the origins of different religions.

We could go down the road and discuss:

If God doesn't exist then who or what created the universe and what is the point of our existence?

Don't get me wrong, I am not stating either way the existence or non-existence, this is because I can't find any proof to back up any absolute statement. If you know of the proof then point the way, but please don't just come back with an ub-substantiated statement.

[MSL]

I don't think you need to be especially intelligent to realise that the likelihood of a supreme being creating all things is pretty unlikely.
There are countless species on this planet. Only one of them to my knowledge believes in god.
The rest of them just seem to be happy to be alive.

Just my opinion.

[SorenR]

I remember one of the excercises as a boy scout back in the day was to pass on a story just like it was told to you... It was more often than not the story took a weird twist somewhere

[Steev]

Originally Posted by MSL

God doesn't exist and the whole thing is a made up story, which makes it even more bizarre that people are arguing over it.

God is an ancient construct for Conscience. Everyone has their own "God". If we all had "God" ie a Conscience then theoretically, no bad shit should happen as it would cross our Conscience or "God".

Denying "God" denies your Conscience and therefore any decent behaviour toward each other.

Res ipsa loquitur, the fact speaks for itself.

So you see there is a God!

[Isimmo]

I do like a pint of Old Speckled Hen now and again....

[b2_sport]

“Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.”

Sir Winston S. Churchill