Having a drink......having a drive...
 

Whats our views on having a drink (alcoholic) and driving afterwards?
Whats an acceptable/unacceptable amount to drink and drive?
Its probably something that most of us have done in the past but has growing older / life experiences changed our thinking in any way?
If you were caught dd would you try to justify your actions by saying 'I was only just over' or 'I was only moving the car off the road to my driveway' etc
Would new more strict laws governing the sale of alcohol help cut down the number of dd's?

Your comments please.

simply don't for me, end of.

I lose my license I lose my job.

Zero. Have never drink driven.

I see it like this for myself at any rate.
Although i would likely be ok to drive with even a modest amount of alcohol in my system, i do know that it affects me in ways that arent of any benefit to the act of driving a car.
Dulled senses, slowed reactions and impaired decision making are a definite result.

Drivings hard enough and fraught with quite enough dangers to further increase them to yourself but most importantly others.
Killing oneself through the utter idiocy of driving with alcohol or drugs is one thing, killing someone else is simply unforgiveable, especially when its absolutely avoidable.

I used to indulge in a drink on a night when i was going to be in ( southern comforts and cokes...yum) but 4 years ago i just decided to leave it alone, havent had even a drop since...just dont see the point of it anymore.
Besides i could be out in the garage freezing my nuts off working on the car...who'd want to be in the warm half kaylied when you could be doing that eh? :D

Ok....Here is the knowledge guys......In answer to the question.....There isnt one:shake:

The drink driving limit is:

35 micrograms of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath; or
80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood; or
107 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine.


The limit cannot be safely converted into a certain number of units, as it depends on a number of factors to include gender, body mass and how quickly your body absorbs alcohol into the blood stream.

It takes one hour for a healthy liver to process one unit of alcohol. However, it does depend on your body mass, gender and how much food you have consumed. Also even if you feel fine after having a skin full on an evening, there is still a high possibility that you will be above the legal limit should you drive the following morning.

A unit of alcohol is measured by its size (ml) and strength (% alcohol by volume or ABV) of the drink.
One unit of alcohol is 10ml (1cl) by volume or 8g by weight, of pure alcohol.......Imagine the barmans face when you get your scales out to weigh your drink to make sure you are getting the right amount!!!!



A Pint of Beer is 2 Units, Large Wine just over 2 and a Spirit, one shot, is 1 Unit. Minimum Ban is 12 months...:yikes:

You dont have to be driving, just in the car with the keys is enough, even if you are fast asleep, you could be nicked and face a court appearance for being in charge, then you have to show that you have no intention of driving....Not Good.

In my expierence, it wont matter what the limit is reduced to, the hardened drink driver always thinks he/she wont be caught, so the legislation has no effect on their consumption.

So in short....Its a guessing game, everytime you drink a few and drive....Emjays advice is spot on.

Totally agree here. I wouldn't at all.
Always have coke if I'm driving. The car is much more fun than the beer so it's no real hardship! :tup:

I couldn't live with myself if I had an accident and hurt someone, even if it wasn't strictly due to drink, if I'd had one you could always ask yourself "what if" you hadn't bothered with that one.......

This is where science and political rhetoric part company.........

I would maybe have 1 pint with a meal and thats it, any more than that and you dont drive

Simples

Never Ever drink and drive! Life is far too precious! and you've only got one!
Its short enough as it is.no excuse if your caught,i'd ban them for ever imho.:hand::D

HAHAHA I THINK THE LAW NEEDS ADJUSTING A TAD!

i got banned for 12month, after id been to bed for 6 hours! not had a heavy night didnt see last orders but been out most of the day, got up at 5am to be at work for 6am,
got pulled at 5.30am wait for it, not because of speeding/ or because my driving was impaired or the fact my car wasnt road legal but because i had a baseball cap on and was driving a car at 5.30 on a sunday morning. genuine he told me that was the only reason! breath said i was 39mg so the head officer at the station sugested i opt for blood being sunday theyd have to call a dr out could be an hour before he arrived so i went for that, when blood tests came thru i had 82mg in 100mg of blood legal limit 80mg!! doh doh i was sober as ever

i don't if i lose my licence i lose my job
i did get band 12years ago for 6 mounths had been out with some mates and staying that there house
when we got back to his house i went to get my bag out of my car as i was locking the car the police
turned up and nicked me the car was stone cold but they won't have that so it went to court but i still got banned the bastards

If I'm out for a meal or meeting up with mates and driving, I'll have 1 pint at the beginning of the nite and then straight on to the J20, but have always left it about 2 hours even after 1 pint, before getting behind the wheel.
Quite happy not drinking though and just sitting chatting with a J20, and Alex and I normally take in in turns to drive when we go out anyway.

coke is illegal to you know...!!!!!;):lol: you might crash while you are snorting it..!!!!

NO....thats all im saying...no need..get a bus..

I'd have a pint or even a shandy if it was the start of the evening and I was sure I was going to be there for a least a couple of hours. Never anymore and after that just soft drinks :tup:

Not worth the risk, Diet coke all night then if you want to put you foot down the only thing that you will loose is 3 points for speeding.

Simples, I drive to the meal out or night out with Lynn, drink what I like and get Lynn to drive home after she's been on the j2o's all night.. :lol:

If I have to drive its 1/2 pint shandy at start of meal then the J2O's at most, though normally just J2o's. The way I drive I need to be 100% alert. And as I weigh 102Kg, 1/2 of shandy not a problem.:rock:

You'll all hate me for this but I used to. Big time. In the late eighties and up to a particular date in 1990. We all used to do it. Car surfing whilst ten pints up, 'right what rave are we off to', jump in the car without a care in the world. Our parents used to also. Saturday night out in the Countryside was murder, literally. Then one Christmas Eve in 1990, after a 10 pinter at lunchtime, a mate dropped me off back at home, about three miles from the pub. Good job really as I was having trouble standing up. Mum and Dad were out which, in hindsight what I am about to tell would never have happened. I was seeing a Girl in Manchester at the time and I also had a Company car, which, which parked in the car park of the pub we had just exited. So I was bored and wanted to call her, no mobiles so it was plain old land line stuff. BUT her number was in my filofax in the Escort back at the pub. Simple I thought take the freshly restored ( 5.5k ) MGB GT and get her number. Apparently, according to a neighbour it took me half an hour to get into the car, but I was on a high. I never actually made the pub, a nasty little greasy left hander of a country lane put pay to that. Apparently according to source the car barrel rolled three times ending on it's roof and then burst into flames. I can remember it all clear as day as you sober up very quickly, well you think you do. My legs were quite badly burned ( fine now all hairy again) and I had lacerations to my arms and face and a gashed ear. I won't go into the details of what happened after that moment for fear of incrimination but things went my way. Later on, when sitting in the car, the roof had gone over so far my head and upper torso were clean out of the car.
The funny thing is, I have never ever done it since and neither will I.

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Going back 15-20 years, it was almost acceptable to drink and drive.
I used to work on the railway, and one of my jobs was train crew rostering which was a round the clock job. I often copped for the night shift and the amount of train drivers that would go to the pub for 4 or 5 pints before booking on for work was alarming, but back then, it was common practice and as long as you could stand up, you could drive a train!
As an ex-railwayman, I could happily share stories which the HSE would have a field day with! Trains being delayed for 90 minutes in the platform as the traincrew were in the pub, shunt engines being derailed as the shunter had spent 6 hours in the pub before coming to work.
Nowadays, if you have a sniff of alcohol on you, you are taken off duty and Mediscreen (or a similar type of company are called) and you face instant dismissal.

Shit Rich that was serious and very lucky, personally i've never done it not once. Passed my test in 88, and it was without a doubt, the best day of my life, to that point. I cherished that license, and there was no way i was going to risk it due to beer.

Trouble was in those days Darren I thought I was invincible. Only lived for the next beer and Girl. Looking back they were great times so much fun and laughs, but incredibly stupid, foolhardy and irresponsible. And I have never ever even had a drag of a cigarette either.

I've been stupid when younger and driven when I know I've had too much. I know theres no excuse for it and I've never tried to excuse it.
I think later on in life you see things differently. Yous see the consequences not just for yourself but for others too, potential innocent victims of your reckless behaviour.
I'm on the verge of losing my licence not due to anything like dd, but due to poor health. I'm having a sleep test next week as the gp and consultant both think i'm suffering from sleep apnea.
The thought of even temporarily having to do without driving has really got me down, but if I was to lose my licence as a result of my stupid actions such as dd or driving when i'm likely to fall asleep at the wheel, that would make me feel my life wasn't worth living.

Don't..... I could tell you a tale or two as well... Different world then...

I worked as a drayman for brewery deliveries and seemingly back in the day one of the drivers got pulled over by the police down Stranraer way for veering all over the road. He fell out the lorry to meet the officer. He was poured back into the drivers seat then escorted home to Alloa.

I heard more similar stories while I worked there. Every pub just about gave you a wee " perk of the job " for humphing the kegs so on a big run like the Stranraer run they soon added up. 15-20 drops and a pint at each pub is a hell of a lot of beer. I took my " perks " in can form to enjoy at home. My fridge was packed in those days.

I wouldn't drive even if I'd only had half a bottle of beer. It's still alcohol in your system.

very much so. If we were on a late shift at work (2-10ish), and we went down the pub on our break, the first man you'd see would be yer boss/supervisor and the first thing he'd do would be to buy you a drink.

i think we should run with zero tolerance no drink then drive or get a taxi leave the car behind i have seen the end result of assholes drink drivin its no a great sign guys, the sooner we go over 21 and no drink no drive the better , BRING THIS ON THE SOONER THE BETTER

Why the 21 age limit though Gabe??

I can understand zero tolerance as everyone handles alcohol intake differently, but what difference would raising the legal drinking age to 21 do?
apart from encourage more youngsters to drink illegally.

come to my area any friday and saturday night and watch the toung asshole wanting to fight the world then go see her indoor workin in the heath hosptal in cardiff and count the time staff get abuse and stonach pumped out by the really young asshole who cannot control there beer or them selves thats why 21

to be fair Gabe, that happens at any age.
21, 31, 41, 51 or even 61.
You go in to Wolverhampton or any large city on a Friday/Saturday night and you'll always get people of all ages who drink too much, and I wouldn't say it's people under 21 as most of them can't afford to drink that much. It's the older ones who've got a bit of money and like to 'piss it up the wall' that cause the problems.

dont drink and drive... not even one... whats the point in having one anyway.... drink or drive.... when i drink i usually get hammered.. i dont get this one drink thing at all.... im not an alco either by the way... dont drink a lot in fairness... i used to drive a lorry.. and was at a funeral on a sunday... went for drinks after and got totally wasted... got up for work next day... felt sober till i started to drive... i swore never again... my life is my life i dont have the right to endanger anyone elses... and driving a truck while not completely in control is maddness.... and completely selfish...