'Orrible smell from my B3 90 20v.

[SwallownAmazon]

Originally Posted by mikes2

if you can smell it inside the cabin, check the fresh air flap in the bottom left corner of the boot - they're usually broken

Yes, it is noticeable in the cabin but only with a window or the sun roof open.

Is that flap under the spare wheel?

Gaffer and diagnostics techie at my garage is on holiday so can't get it checked for a week or so.

[Ben]

Is it a petrol smell? maybe your pcv system is bunged up.

[mikes2]

Originally Posted by SwallownAmazon

Yes, it is noticeable in the cabin but only with a window or the sun roof open.

Is that flap under the spare wheel?

Gaffer and diagnostics techie at my garage is on holiday so can't get it checked for a week or so.

Yes that's the one. The flaps should open / close depending if you have the windows and or sunroof open.

The tabs usually break and the flaps sit open when they should be closed.

carbon canister sits in front of the cooling system expansion tank. There are two valves which operate it - it's supposed to absorb excess fumes and return them back to the tank - that's what the middle fuel line is for.

[Davids]

Originally Posted by mikes2

Yes that's the one. The flaps should open / close depending if you have the windows and or sunroof open.

The tabs usually break and the flaps sit open when they should be closed.

carbon canister sits in front of the cooling system expansion tank. There are two valves which operate it - it's supposed to absorb excess fumes and return them back to the tank - that's what the middle fuel line is for.

Cheers, will check that

[SwallownAmazon]

Originally Posted by Ben

Is it a petrol smell? maybe your pcv system is bunged up.

See Post #6.

I did quite bit of smurfing on't t'internet last night and I found the list of fault codes, with symptoms and fixes to print off for my chap when he's back from Germany. One of said codes is 2413 which if shown, indicates rich running coupled with low fuel pressure. Now the fuel pump was making some strange noises after a run as though a bearing was starting to seize; so, I wonder if that might be the cause. It's still the original so it will be changed anyway and while it's there, a new lambda probe won't go amiss as so far as I can see from the service records, that's still the original!

[mikes2]

you sure about that fault code ? 2413 is not a valid code for a 20v

should it be 2143 knock sensor or 2341 lambda probe ?

http://20v.org/fault.htm

At least with a code you have something to work with

[SwallownAmazon]

Originally Posted by mikes2

you sure about that fault code ? 2413 is not a valid code for a 20v

http://20v.org/fault.htm

At least with a code you have something to work with

It's a code I found in a list for early 1990 cars on an American site. Code 2341 I believe is not valid for my car with only two connectors in the footwell.

I've taped up the aperture where the missing rubber flap was and I'm taking it out in an hour or so on a drive up to Orpington station on the way to see Mark Knopfler in London tonight. More news tomorrow if the smell inside has diminished.

[SwallownAmazon]

Originally Posted by SwallownAmazon

More news tomorrow if the smell inside has diminished.

Mike, you're a genius!

No trace of the smell inside the cabin with windows open even after just starting it up. Fast run up Pole Hill on M25 to Orpington and NO SMELL. Perhaps that's the cause of the smell in Davids's car as well, especially if it's intermittent.

I'll still put a new pump on though, I don't like the noises it makes occasionally and knowing my luck it'll fail in a very inconvenient place.

P.S. Mark Knopfler gig was terrific by the way - best selection of songs and we were right on top of the stage beside Messrs McGoldrick & McCosker.

[Davids]

Originally Posted by SwallownAmazon

Mike, you're a genius!

No trace of the smell inside the cabin with windows open even after just starting it up. Fast run up Pole Hill on M25 to Orpington and NO SMELL. Perhaps that's the cause of the smell in Davids's car as well, especially if it's intermittent.

I'll still put a new pump on though, I don't like the noises it makes occasionally and knowing my luck it'll fail in a very inconvenient place.

P.S. Mark Knopfler gig was terrific by the way - best selection of songs and we were right on top of the stage beside Messrs McGoldrick & McCosker.

That's worth looking at but mine smells rich actually outside the car, inside I'm ok, its just sometimes at the rear it smells really rich, but every plug chop looks fine, but I will check the flaps under the bumper as well.

Glad you sorted yours though

Cheers
David

[mikes2]

Originally Posted by SwallownAmazon

Mike, you're a genius!

No trace of the smell inside the cabin with windows open even after just starting it up. Fast run up Pole Hill on M25 to Orpington and NO SMELL. Perhaps that's the cause of the smell in Davids's car as well, especially if it's intermittent.

I'll still put a new pump on though, I don't like the noises it makes occasionally and knowing my luck it'll fail in a very inconvenient place.

P.S. Mark Knopfler gig was terrific by the way - best selection of songs and we were right on top of the stage beside Messrs McGoldrick & McCosker.

I'm guessing the fix was the fresh air flap in the boot ?