Brexit stuff.

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Originally Posted by msh

Omg, there will be some cost!

I have particular fondness for reading about history, so I'll remind you about two british statesman. One was Neville Chamberlain, who, just like you, was afraid that standing up to keep promises / alliances will have some cost, so he allowed Hitler his way. Then there was Winston Churchill, who was more interested in future, not just what will happen tomorrow or the day after, so he did what he had to do - you know the rest, of course.

You remind me one comment I've read - it was something like "Remainers are very unromantic - leavers want national sovereignity and culture, while remainers - cheap international phone calls and cheap travels". In your case you apparently value money more than some priceless things...

Some people on this forum here in the past have called you a mercurial person, for whatever reasons they had, i've seen it,
but do you know what,..........that's the best thing i have heard you say or i think anyone. Absolutely spot on my friend!!

[Duffy3074]

Personally I value stability/cohesion and prosperity in society over jingoistic rose tinted nationalism.

If you say it’s just about the money, you’re just shit stirring methinks

[Duffy3074]

And in the interests of balance.....

https://mobile.twitter.com/MitchBenn...59494184198144

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ss-politicians

I’m sure the Daily Mail will have similar content!

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Flip flopping backwards and forwards protesting for remain in the beginning and then latterly leave doesn't fool me.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck!

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O yea O yea O yea.

Farage is live on LBC right now speaking all the sense in the world as ever!

https://youtu.be/w1n-NQsFOi8

[Duffy3074]

Originally Posted by 4v6

We have something in common then!

However, I happen to believe theres nothing wrong with being nationalistic to a degree and having pride in ones country and its achievements.
Im not one of these types that waves the flag to outdo the neighbours mind you nor am I one who believes we should be running around patting each other on the back and constantly saying how great we are, thatd be setting ourself up for a fall....

I also happen to believe that as a nation unshackled we can do far better running our own affairs (and on a smaller scale you do yourself in your own life) than having ones neigbours bossing us around as has been the case for the last 45 years to our detriment.

Eu economy is on a downward spiral ours is still growing, id rather not be tied to a brick like that.

Peace brother!

People seem to have lost the distinction between patriotism and nationalism, they are 2 very different things, hence the ‘traitor’ crap being thrown at remainers.

The EU is far from perfect but there’s a strong argument that it’s big enough we can’t ignore and we can’t reform from outwith....

https://benjaminstudebaker.com/2019/...tish-position/

This is an interesting and, from what I can see, a coherent analysis of the politics at the moment.

[Duffy3074]

And Farage, yet again showing that facts are no obstacle to bombast



https://mobile.twitter.com/ClaireByr...20771399852032

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Originally Posted by Duffy3074

And Farage, yet again showing that facts are no obstacle to bombast



https://mobile.twitter.com/ClaireByr...20771399852032

If the Irish had stuck to their first referendum result of No to Europe we wouldn't be in this position in the first place!

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Brilliant.......

https://youtu.be/iYG721RZS9I

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I just had a moment.

I remembered i heard through watching the news one HUGELY IMPORTANT FACT that no one is talking about.

No guesses there then, as the whole media backed up by European money (bribery) check out how much the BBC receives from Europe in bribes each year.


It just came to me so i spent 5 minutes looking for the story having been armed with it in the memory banks.


I have the memory of an elephant on things that matter to me. It was reported very recently but only whispered that the agent of the Tory Mp that defeated Farage in the Thanet 2015 general election spent 4 times more than what was aloud under electoral law. So "The Machine (ESTABLISHMENT)" via the Tories made absolutely sure Farage would not get elected. Funny isn't it that we hear absolutely F-ALL about it !!!!!!!!!!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kraaUZPNiZstG6

The conviction..........

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...rXPb1tOOHoSd1H