Relay part number

BackintheFold · 16-03-19, 05:12 PM

I'm missing relay j114-the oil controller relay
I can't find the part number for it so can't look it up on eBay
Does anyone know the part number please?
Thanks

BackintheFold · 16-03-19, 08:14 PM

Is it 443919082 ? I thought mine was a five pin part with two black/blue wires not 6 wires.

BIGGYIN · 16-03-19, 08:34 PM

http://t85q.com/urTfa/Subgroups/elec...equipment.html
857 919 082 ??
FUSE BOX/RELAY PLATE RELAY ADDITIONAL RELAY PLATE F 85-D-900

BackintheFold · 17-03-19, 10:26 AM

It seems "919082" is the relay, and 857 or 443 relates to which car. Are they interchangeable? Anyone tried? I may have one of the 443's
I expect the car will run fine without it, but anyone have a spare please?

BackintheFold · 17-03-19, 12:25 PM

Can anyone confirm that thw MB buzzer is for the oil pressure, or is it in case you leave the radio or parking lights on when you open the door?
Thanks!
(I think the later relays can be used in an MB, but I'm curious about the buzzer as the old relay does not have a specific output for it, while it seems the newer ones do.
I could add a buzzer in to the circuit if it doesn't already have one!

mikes2 · 17-03-19, 08:06 PM

I used to get an audible warning if I left the lights or radio on when I had my MB

BackintheFold · 17-03-19, 08:20 PM

Thanks for that. Didn't get a chance to do any more today and won't for a couple of weeks.
Also have another project that I should get finished before coming back to the ur.
Looking forward to getting everything ship-shape but life getting in the way until April.
Cheers!

BackintheFold · 05-04-19, 05:35 PM

Making progress...
I've poked around the wiring diagrams and worked out how to connect a later oil control relay to the MB loom. Also found out why just plugging it in doesn't work!

Anyone else needed to do this so I can run my process past you first?? Or have a source of the 5 pin j114 controllers so I don't need to do it?

Pending more time to fit it properly I'll fix the warning light to the sensor so at least I have one warning.

BackintheFold · 07-04-19, 07:38 PM

So today I connected a lead between pin 2 and pin 6 in my missing J114 coil controller slot (in the Aux relay panel)and got my low oil pressure warning light working.
This just shows when you drop below 0.3 bar but at least it's something.

To connect the later 6 pin j114 relay found in lots of more recent vw/audi cars, I'll need a t piece, a 1.8 bar pressure switch and will run two wires to the relay aux socket one from the new sensor and one from the alternator b+ terminal (the small one that the alternator warning light is connected to). Connect them up to the aux relay socket in the right slots and plug in a "new" oil controller 6 pin relay
..result is the standard oil pressure warning light will light up at less than 0.3 bar, or the light will shine and the buzzer will sound at less than 1.8 bar with the engine running.

Then the later, easily available 6 pin relays will work in the aux relay board.

If you just plug a later 6 pin relay in, the wiring to the sensors etc is wrong, and you get a permanent warning no matter what the oil pressure is doing.

BackintheFold · 01-09-19, 06:50 PM

Just to confirm that I added the t-piece, oil pressure sensor and new wiring, and the “new” relay works fine. So i can get a new relay from practically any VW/Audi if I need a new one.

16-03-19, 08:14 PM	#2
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	Relay part number Is it 443919082 ? I thought mine was a five pin part with two black/blue wires not 6 wires. __________________ 2006 A3 (daily drive) 1987 MB ur Last edited by BackintheFold; 04-05-21 at 08:39 PM.

16-03-19, 08:34 PM	#3
BIGGYIN 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Merseyside Posts: 7,976	? http://t85q.com/urTfa/Subgroups/elec...equipment.html 857 919 082 ?? FUSE BOX/RELAY PLATE RELAY ADDITIONAL RELAY PLATE F 85-D-900 __________________ q90 B2 Type 85 - q90 B2 Type 85-PROJECT-ABY 20vt KARL. Injection is nice but I'd rather be blown Last edited by BIGGYIN; 16-03-19 at 08:41 PM.

17-03-19, 08:06 PM	#6
mikes2 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Polmont Posts: 2,617	I used to get an audible warning if I left the lights or radio on when I had my MB __________________ 1991 90 quattro 20v sport 1991 90 quattro

07-04-19, 07:38 PM	#9
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	Relay part number So today I connected a lead between pin 2 and pin 6 in my missing J114 coil controller slot (in the Aux relay panel)and got my low oil pressure warning light working. This just shows when you drop below 0.3 bar but at least it's something. To connect the later 6 pin j114 relay found in lots of more recent vw/audi cars, I'll need a t piece, a 1.8 bar pressure switch and will run two wires to the relay aux socket one from the new sensor and one from the alternator b+ terminal (the small one that the alternator warning light is connected to). Connect them up to the aux relay socket in the right slots and plug in a "new" oil controller 6 pin relay ..result is the standard oil pressure warning light will light up at less than 0.3 bar, or the light will shine and the buzzer will sound at less than 1.8 bar with the engine running. Then the later, easily available 6 pin relays will work in the aux relay board. If you just plug a later 6 pin relay in, the wiring to the sensors etc is wrong, and you get a permanent warning no matter what the oil pressure is doing. __________________ 2006 A3 (daily drive) 1987 MB ur Last edited by BackintheFold; 04-05-21 at 08:37 PM.

17-03-19, 10:26 AM	#4
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	It seems "919082" is the relay, and 857 or 443 relates to which car. Are they interchangeable? Anyone tried? I may have one of the 443's I expect the car will run fine without it, but anyone have a spare please?

17-03-19, 12:25 PM	#5
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	Can anyone confirm that thw MB buzzer is for the oil pressure, or is it in case you leave the radio or parking lights on when you open the door? Thanks! (I think the later relays can be used in an MB, but I'm curious about the buzzer as the old relay does not have a specific output for it, while it seems the newer ones do. I could add a buzzer in to the circuit if it doesn't already have one!

17-03-19, 08:20 PM	#7
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	Thanks for that. Didn't get a chance to do any more today and won't for a couple of weeks. Also have another project that I should get finished before coming back to the ur. Looking forward to getting everything ship-shape but life getting in the way until April. Cheers!

05-04-19, 05:35 PM	#8
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	Making progress... I've poked around the wiring diagrams and worked out how to connect a later oil control relay to the MB loom. Also found out why just plugging it in doesn't work! Anyone else needed to do this so I can run my process past you first?? Or have a source of the 5 pin j114 controllers so I don't need to do it? Pending more time to fit it properly I'll fix the warning light to the sensor so at least I have one warning.

01-09-19, 06:50 PM	#10
BackintheFold Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Near an MB ur Quattro Posts: 1,171	Just to confirm that I added the t-piece, oil pressure sensor and new wiring, and the “new” relay works fine. So i can get a new relay from practically any VW/Audi if I need a new one.