Brake force regulator

200tq · 13-09-15, 10:30 PM

Have just bought a 1989 200 10v Turbo Quattro Avant.
Few days ago I recognized that the brake force regulator, with all equipment, is missing.
The regulator is no longer availablle from Audi and I`m not sure of the right partnr./type of regulator who fits on my car. (have called two Audi shops and they gave me two different parnr.)
Have looked at ebay and similar sides on the web, but there is different types there.
It is self leveling suspension on the car.
Hope someone here can help me with this!!

ian20v · 14-09-15, 03:30 PM

I've never seen a 200q with the self leveling working,most have had the set up replaced with standard or lowered strut inserts at least mine all have,you could try Pete Reeve at quattro corner he's helped me out with a few nla parts which he had in his hoard.
Oh nearly forgot get the pics up matey its mandatory.

Stanson · 14-09-15, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 200tq

The regulator is no longer availablle from Audi and I`m not sure of the right partnr./type of regulator who fits on my car. (have called two Audi shops and they gave me two different parnr.)
Have looked at ebay and similar sides on the web, but there is different types there.
It is self leveling suspension on the car.

Part number for self leveling suspension is 443 614 151 B
Part is NLA, but in most cases it's not hard to restore used one.

200tq · 19-09-15, 06:26 PM

Thank you for answers!
Now I maybe can buy a valve with the mechanic-system from a car with self-leveling. Hope that the valve is working (and fits)!
Was in contact with my lokal Audi-dealer (again) yesterday, and they said that the partnr. on the valve for car with self leveling si 447614151 and w/o self leveling 443614151J. The other dealer I called said that the partnr. for cars with self leveling is 443614151B., the same nr. Stanson wrote.
I wonder what can be the reasons of these differences?)
I`ll get you updated!

Ringmaster · 19-09-15, 07:50 PM

Differences may just be changes made to the part over time.

Converted my 1987 C3 Avant to standard rear suspension 2 years ago. The self-levelling valve began to leak. 26 years must be a record for those valves.

Anyway, with a bit of clever re-plumbing of pipework, my mechanic managed to keep using the self-levelling brake pressure regulator.... So far, so good.

Interestingly, he said he could probably have used a VW Corrado brake regulator if a standard regulator was not available from Audi.

willow · 19-09-15, 11:02 PM

Gold car?...

Hanuman · 20-09-15, 06:12 AM

I'd be interested to know what the differences are between the normal regulators and those on self levelling cars. I've only seen the former, so far.

It's a fairly simple alloy valve block, made by Ate.

I've got one where the plunger valve itself had seized internally, but the valve seems to be thread locked. It's a pretty soft material, so getting it out intact has proven next to impossible.
Most of these seem to fail due to corrosion on the actuating arm.

Looking through the VagCat catalogue, both the 443 and 447 numbers appear on many of the models from Audi 100/200 type 44 through to A6, C4 chassis vehicles, and Audi V8. All of which have common components.

200tq · 20-09-15, 07:48 PM

What is a "gold car"?

sinbin5t · 20-09-15, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 200tq

What is a "gold car"?

maybe they mean colour ?

200tq · 20-09-15, 08:26 PM

Ahaaaa! Was so simple!! Clever me....

14-09-15, 03:30 PM	#2
ian20v 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sticksville,dumfries and galloway Posts: 4,241	I've never seen a 200q with the self leveling working,most have had the set up replaced with standard or lowered strut inserts at least mine all have,you could try Pete Reeve at quattro corner he's helped me out with a few nla parts which he had in his hoard. Oh nearly forgot get the pics up matey its mandatory. __________________ 1987 audi 200 Quattro saloon sorned,few bits to do yet. 1987 Audi 200 quattro avant sorned,getting rebuilt Daily Toyota Hilux 1999 2.4td double cab VW caddy van 1.9tdi 2010

20-09-15, 06:12 AM	#7
Hanuman Trickster Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Heckling from the cheap seats, Phnom Penh, KoW Posts: 7,006	I'd be interested to know what the differences are between the normal regulators and those on self levelling cars. I've only seen the former, so far. It's a fairly simple alloy valve block, made by Ate. I've got one where the plunger valve itself had seized internally, but the valve seems to be thread locked. It's a pretty soft material, so getting it out intact has proven next to impossible. Most of these seem to fail due to corrosion on the actuating arm. Looking through the VagCat catalogue, both the 443 and 447 numbers appear on many of the models from Audi 100/200 type 44 through to A6, C4 chassis vehicles, and Audi V8. All of which have common components. __________________ I wish they would keep the damned Chinese away now that I can go home, so that I can enjoy Fish amok and a draught Angkor Last edited by Hanuman; 20-09-15 at 06:37 AM.

19-09-15, 06:26 PM	#4
200tq Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 5	Thank you for answers! Now I maybe can buy a valve with the mechanic-system from a car with self-leveling. Hope that the valve is working (and fits)! Was in contact with my lokal Audi-dealer (again) yesterday, and they said that the partnr. on the valve for car with self leveling si 447614151 and w/o self leveling 443614151J. The other dealer I called said that the partnr. for cars with self leveling is 443614151B., the same nr. Stanson wrote. I wonder what can be the reasons of these differences?) I`ll get you updated!

19-09-15, 07:50 PM	#5
Ringmaster Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,326	Differences may just be changes made to the part over time. Converted my 1987 C3 Avant to standard rear suspension 2 years ago. The self-levelling valve began to leak. 26 years must be a record for those valves. Anyway, with a bit of clever re-plumbing of pipework, my mechanic managed to keep using the self-levelling brake pressure regulator.... So far, so good. Interestingly, he said he could probably have used a VW Corrado brake regulator if a standard regulator was not available from Audi.

19-09-15, 11:02 PM	#6
willow Grown up member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Kerry Ireland Posts: 163	Gold car?...

20-09-15, 07:48 PM	#8
200tq Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 5	What is a "gold car"?

20-09-15, 08:26 PM	#10
200tq Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 5	Ahaaaa! Was so simple!! Clever me....