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Old 22-10-18, 04:27 PM   #41
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As everyone knows exactly what is going to happen for certain, on the nose, no doubts, yep thats it, okly dokly, can they put next weeks winning lottery numbers up please
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Old 22-10-18, 08:25 PM   #42
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Old 22-10-18, 08:44 PM   #43
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There certainly was a lot of pre referendum cooking of the books going on

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Old 23-10-18, 07:12 AM   #44
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One of the remain arguments is that the referendum result wasnt "clear" enough in that not a large enough number of people voted leave therefore another votes needed to clarify this aspect.

Im still not seeing any kind of response to the following question though; In the event of another vote if remain won by the same margin as leave did would that then be the end of the matter?

Im going to suggest that remain wouldnt then want yet another vote because it seems to me theyd somehow believe their win would mean more legitimacy than the previous leave win..... Thats a little screwy to my mind and smacks of unfairness. Its rather like taking ones ball home because the game didnt go the way it was expected.

Since remain voters are so adamant we need another vote you have to ask the question is it then right for leave voters to demand a further vote?
And then what if the result of that vote is 50/50?
Do you just keep on voting until people get so pissed off at the whole exercise that they abandon the process altogether?
Where does it end?

I can say right now that those sqealing about getting another bite of the cherry will only ever accept one outcome, which is them getting their own way 100% of the time and regardless of what a democratic vote and hence the will of the majority voted for.

When you take a willing part in referendum you accept the terms and conditions that are prerequisite when you participate you bind yourself by the conditions and such participation signals your acceptance of such conditions.
If remainers didnt want to bound by the terms of the contract then why did they take part only to shriek hysterically that its all so unfair they couldnt have what they wanted?

Dangerous times for democracy.

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Old 23-10-18, 07:15 AM   #45
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Another bite of the cherry!

I see what you did there
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Old 23-10-18, 09:17 AM   #46
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Another bite of the cherry!

I see what you did there
Ha ha i dont even like flipping cherries. Yukky things!
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Old 14-12-18, 12:05 PM   #47
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Im still not seeing any kind of response to the following question though; In the event of another vote if remain won by the same margin as leave did would that then be the end of the matter?
I keep telling you, there will not be a second referendum for the reason you put above. Best of three? five? etc, It will break democracy rules. There could be a general election where a party gets in on a second vote pledge, and we have something not called a leave referendum, maybe called a cancel brexit referendum.

I would burst with laughter if leave wins again by a bigger margin
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There was a petition recently requesting a People's Referendum if the exit deal got rejected by Parliament. It reached the 100,000 threshold and so the government had to respond.
Despite my misgivings about these petitions (i.e. they're useless and are just there to give us plebs the illusion that we're actively participating in democracy), I signed it. Nothing to lose, right?
I got an email this morning to say that the government had responded. The main points:
  • A "clear majority" of people had voted Leave
  • Parliament "overwhelmingly confirmed" the decision to Leave
  • 80% of people voted for parties which were committed to "respecting the result of the referendum."
  • The Government is committed to "respecting... the will of the people."
  • **** off.
There will be no referendum happening while May is in charge.
It's a shame they can't put the time or effort into some petition for something important, instead of something they are constantly being told won't happen.
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Old 14-12-18, 12:29 PM   #48
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Most people voted to leave as they were fed up with un-elected people telling us what to do. I suppose this is the norm for us working class anyway.
I personally don't care if we trade with Europe or not, what I don't want is being told if we are to trade we must do this and that. I hoped a complete Brexit was going to happen and we would could get on making Britain great again, but no! Commerce, Industry and more of the faceless "Organ Grinders! have more say than us the so called democratic voters of this country, and to top this all we have people who did or did not even bother to vote minority, tell us we should have another vote. No ! NO ! No ! If we back out now the so called democracy in this country will become even more of a joke. I personally will not ever bother to vote again and any respect I had for any of the politicians will be gone.
Some people are trying to get us to fight amongst ourselves so we fail and weaken this country, in order to achieve their own gains.

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Old 14-12-18, 02:54 PM   #49
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The actual response to the petition in full: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/232984
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Old 14-12-18, 06:31 PM   #50
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The remain train left the station in 2016 and that questions answered, lets just leave the rotten EU mafia club via no deal and show them what this "little" country is really capable of.
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