Converting 4 stud typ89 to 5 x 112

Addicted · 18-12-13, 03:34 PM

I want to convert my typ89 4 x 108 front hubs to 5 x 112.

Is this an easy job? or is the 5 stud hub something obscure?

I have a hub from an Audi 100, anyone know if they fit?

spink · 18-12-13, 06:56 PM

Yes they do
Info is on motorgeek in derracudas 4000q thread

I will have a look for it in a bit

spink · 18-12-13, 07:16 PM

http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.p...1b3c931c0ba35a

Addicted · 18-12-13, 07:43 PM

Thanks Spink... That's a good read..

spink · 18-12-13, 08:45 PM

ah, I have just read on page 4 he used b3 front struts

Addicted · 18-12-13, 09:20 PM

That's the same as I have I think, part # starts with 89

spink · 18-12-13, 10:45 PM

I've just remembered I've got early one piece b3 struts waiting to go on my 90

Are yours the one piece or later 2 piece?

Addicted · 19-12-13, 06:21 AM

Mine are two piece. I wanted camber control.

msh · 19-12-13, 07:40 AM

Well, B3 is both Typ89 and Typ8A - in case of a suspension it could be even split in three submodels, because first year of Typ89 +/- identical to Typ85, while afterwards there are difference - I guess they changed outer CV joints from ones with nut to ones with bolt.

As for that B2q thread from motorgeek, derracuda was saying he used ordinary front struts, not 20v ones.

As for 5 stud conversations, it is known that in rear of quattro car should be used A4 hubs and brake discs, for front I've read about turning C4 hubs so that they will fit B4 discs and drilling missing holes in 4 stud G60 discs [because S2 discs are rare and expensive]. When that time will come for me, I'll try what happens when A4 front hub and disc is fitted - all I need is alignment with my G60's and if that disc will happen to be slightly too big [12 mm bigger, at least on paper], I would rather prefer turning stock A4 discs to make them smaller to drilling four holes in existing discs

I guess FWD rear should be similar to quattro rear, but so far it seems that none has bothered to do that to FWD

Addicted · 19-12-13, 08:39 AM

Just looked at prices for S2 discs.. ouch!

Even the 4 stud version used on the V6 is expensive.

The Sharan TDI disk I'm thinking of using could be interesting to S2 owners as its pretty much identical only 12mm bigger in diameter..

18-12-13, 07:43 PM	#4
Addicted Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 591	Thanks Spink... That's a good read.. __________________ 1985 Type 81 2 door 2.8 V6 1983 Golf GTI track weapon 1977 Scirocco G60 1968 Sand Rail 2006 A4 2.0 TDI Avant = DEAD due to oil pump failure.. then alive.. then DEAD due to cam belt tensioner failure! and ALIVE again!!!

18-12-13, 09:20 PM	#6
Addicted Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 591	That's the same as I have I think, part # starts with 89 __________________ 1985 Type 81 2 door 2.8 V6 1983 Golf GTI track weapon 1977 Scirocco G60 1968 Sand Rail 2006 A4 2.0 TDI Avant = DEAD due to oil pump failure.. then alive.. then DEAD due to cam belt tensioner failure! and ALIVE again!!!

19-12-13, 06:21 AM	#8
Addicted Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 591	Mine are two piece. I wanted camber control. __________________ 1985 Type 81 2 door 2.8 V6 1983 Golf GTI track weapon 1977 Scirocco G60 1968 Sand Rail 2006 A4 2.0 TDI Avant = DEAD due to oil pump failure.. then alive.. then DEAD due to cam belt tensioner failure! and ALIVE again!!!

19-12-13, 08:39 AM	#10
Addicted Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 591	Just looked at prices for S2 discs.. ouch! Even the 4 stud version used on the V6 is expensive. The Sharan TDI disk I'm thinking of using could be interesting to S2 owners as its pretty much identical only 12mm bigger in diameter.. __________________ 1985 Type 81 2 door 2.8 V6 1983 Golf GTI track weapon 1977 Scirocco G60 1968 Sand Rail 2006 A4 2.0 TDI Avant = DEAD due to oil pump failure.. then alive.. then DEAD due to cam belt tensioner failure! and ALIVE again!!!

18-12-13, 06:56 PM	#2
spink Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: yorkshire Posts: 1,525	Yes they do Info is on motorgeek in derracudas 4000q thread I will have a look for it in a bit

18-12-13, 07:16 PM	#3
spink Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: yorkshire Posts: 1,525	http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.p...1b3c931c0ba35a

18-12-13, 08:45 PM	#5
spink Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: yorkshire Posts: 1,525	ah, I have just read on page 4 he used b3 front struts

18-12-13, 10:45 PM	#7
spink Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: yorkshire Posts: 1,525	I've just remembered I've got early one piece b3 struts waiting to go on my 90 Are yours the one piece or later 2 piece?

19-12-13, 07:40 AM	#9
msh 4 ring whore! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rucava, Latvija Posts: 3,816	Well, B3 is both Typ89 and Typ8A - in case of a suspension it could be even split in three submodels, because first year of Typ89 +/- identical to Typ85, while afterwards there are difference - I guess they changed outer CV joints from ones with nut to ones with bolt. As for that B2q thread from motorgeek, derracuda was saying he used ordinary front struts, not 20v ones. As for 5 stud conversations, it is known that in rear of quattro car should be used A4 hubs and brake discs, for front I've read about turning C4 hubs so that they will fit B4 discs and drilling missing holes in 4 stud G60 discs [because S2 discs are rare and expensive]. When that time will come for me, I'll try what happens when A4 front hub and disc is fitted - all I need is alignment with my G60's and if that disc will happen to be slightly too big [12 mm bigger, at least on paper], I would rather prefer turning stock A4 discs to make them smaller to drilling four holes in existing discs I guess FWD rear should be similar to quattro rear, but so far it seems that none has bothered to do that to FWD