buying a car that is sorned?

Gaz · 25-05-15, 09:01 PM

A friend of mine wants to buy a car, and needs me to drive it back home for him. Unfortunatly it's not taxed or insured by the previous owner, but it does have an MOT .

Problem is its over 3 hours away, so we will need to decide there and then if we want it or not.

Question 1) What should I do? Can I Insure it for just for a day to get it TAXED? or do I need to insure it for longer?

Question 2) The thing I'm most confused about tho, is the TAX situation. How can we TAX it if we are not the registered keeper on the day? Or is there a way to transfer ownership/registered keeper on the SAME day as sale, AND TAX it there and then before we drive it away?

Flying Frank · 25-05-15, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

A friend of mine wants to buy a car, and needs me to drive it back home for him. Unfortunatly it's not taxed or insured by the previous owner, but it does have an MOT .

Problem is its over 3 hours away, so we will need to decide there and then if we want it or not.

Question 1) What should I do? Can I Insure it for just for a day to get it TAXED? or do I need to insure it for longer?

Question 2) The thing I'm most confused about tho, is the TAX situation. How can we TAX it if we are not the registered keeper on the day? Or is there a way to transfer ownership/registered keeper on the SAME day as sale, AND TAX it there and then before we drive it away?

I'm not so sure that the DVLA are checking on insurance on their data base these days, but regarding tax, just take the green slip from the right hand side of the V5c into a Post Office that issues car tax and they will tax the car for you immeadiately.
If you have a good broker for insurance, he will probably organise cover for you for the day. Otherwise, explain to your own insurance company what you wish to do and I think they may be prepared to cover you for 24 hours.

I stand to be corrected.

john johnson · 25-05-15, 09:20 PM

You insure it prior to collecting it and in the new owner section of the logbook there is a number and you tax if there and then online when you collect it or even prior to collection ... Simple ...I've just done it

Hanuman · 25-05-15, 09:31 PM

unless anyone knows otherwise, you cannot tax online if there is no insurance registered for the vehicle. it doesn't necessarily mean that its your insurance, simply an insurance marker from the insurance database. Likewise, no MOT registered, no tax.

So insuring on the morning may not work if the database isn't promptly updated. The system is not perfect. I've been pulled over for 'suspected' no insurance, because the ANPR camera on a plod vehicle flagged my car up. I was insured, though; paper/email docs are worth carrying.

It's probably worth using the tried and tested post office method, if that still exists.
If in doubt, call DVLA before you go.

Angel_Lady26 · 25-05-15, 09:35 PM

I had to drive 4 hours for My 80 it was also untaxed and uninsured we went and looked at it decided to buy it took the green slip to the post office to tax it and insured it over the phone then drove it 4 hours home just make sure you specify you want it insured from the day you ring up

john johnson · 25-05-15, 09:45 PM

Insured mine Thursday , collected it Saturday and taxed it online sat outside the guys house

Gaz · 25-05-15, 09:46 PM

Cheers guys,

just looked here : http://www.postoffice.co.uk/vehicle-tax/changes

It seems to confirm that I don't need insurance citificate to tax the vehicle at the post office any more??.

vorsprung durch technik · 25-05-15, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by john johnson

Insured mine Thursday , collected it Saturday and taxed it online sat outside the guys house

you must be confident and young to do that outside the guys house on your phone???

I have similar to do.It sounds complicated doing that on the phone.

john johnson · 25-05-15, 09:59 PM

No , that's how you do it .... I asked a police man friend what the score was and he told me the above . There's not a lot of wriggle room left in the law these days with anpr etc

john johnson · 25-05-15, 10:02 PM

Go on the DVla site and follow the links ... It's straightforward as I thought the same

25-05-15, 09:20 PM	#3
john johnson Moderator of sausages Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sheffield Posts: 13,331	You insure it prior to collecting it and in the new owner section of the logbook there is a number and you tax if there and then online when you collect it or even prior to collection ... Simple ...I've just done it __________________ Mr OCD http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/jsquatts/ Daily rs4 b7 with buckets that play havoc with my piles And if you are reading this as James may would say ' you're a cock '

25-05-15, 09:31 PM	#4
Hanuman Trickster Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Heckling from the cheap seats, Phnom Penh, KoW Posts: 7,006	unless anyone knows otherwise, you cannot tax online if there is no insurance registered for the vehicle. it doesn't necessarily mean that its your insurance, simply an insurance marker from the insurance database. Likewise, no MOT registered, no tax. So insuring on the morning may not work if the database isn't promptly updated. The system is not perfect. I've been pulled over for 'suspected' no insurance, because the ANPR camera on a plod vehicle flagged my car up. I was insured, though; paper/email docs are worth carrying. It's probably worth using the tried and tested post office method, if that still exists. If in doubt, call DVLA before you go. __________________ I wish they would keep the damned Chinese away now that I can go home, so that I can enjoy Fish amok and a draught Angkor

25-05-15, 09:45 PM	#6
john johnson Moderator of sausages Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sheffield Posts: 13,331	Insured mine Thursday , collected it Saturday and taxed it online sat outside the guys house __________________ Mr OCD http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/jsquatts/ Daily rs4 b7 with buckets that play havoc with my piles And if you are reading this as James may would say ' you're a cock '

25-05-15, 09:59 PM	#9
john johnson Moderator of sausages Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sheffield Posts: 13,331	No , that's how you do it .... I asked a police man friend what the score was and he told me the above . There's not a lot of wriggle room left in the law these days with anpr etc __________________ Mr OCD http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/jsquatts/ Daily rs4 b7 with buckets that play havoc with my piles And if you are reading this as James may would say ' you're a cock '

25-05-15, 10:02 PM	#10
john johnson Moderator of sausages Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sheffield Posts: 13,331	Go on the DVla site and follow the links ... It's straightforward as I thought the same __________________ Mr OCD http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/jsquatts/ Daily rs4 b7 with buckets that play havoc with my piles And if you are reading this as James may would say ' you're a cock '

25-05-15, 09:35 PM	#5
Angel_Lady26 Newbie! Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 11	I had to drive 4 hours for My 80 it was also untaxed and uninsured we went and looked at it decided to buy it took the green slip to the post office to tax it and insured it over the phone then drove it 4 hours home just make sure you specify you want it insured from the day you ring up

25-05-15, 09:46 PM	#7
Gaz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Five Cylinder heaven Posts: 1,493	Cheers guys, just looked here : http://www.postoffice.co.uk/vehicle-tax/changes It seems to confirm that I don't need insurance citificate to tax the vehicle at the post office any more??.