Clutch on the floor? - Page 2

martinws · 06-12-10, 06:16 PM

Sounds like air in the system as said previously. its a bit of a bugger to get to. from underneith i took the N/S driveshaft out and got my head right up to get a good look at it and then basically bled it blind qith a helper.
Not hard if you know what the slave looks like. A big peice of clear hose helps to see the bubbles if you dont have a bleed kit.

Jolfa · 06-12-10, 06:22 PM

I'll assume this is going to be 100x easier without the engine in then, I'll just hang on until I remove it

Phil Payne · 06-12-10, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolfa

I'll assume this is going to be 100x easier without the engine in then, I'll just hang on until I remove it

Access to the bleed nipple, yes. You can sit on a stool and have a beer.

However - the clutch plate will come out with the engine so you'll have to find some way of resisting the actuating rod's movement. It's a fairly powerful hydraulic system, so that could be tricky.

Jolfa · 06-12-10, 07:21 PM

I hate hydraulics, it's never straightforward

I think hydro systems may have overtaken wiring in the "things I hate about cars" awards

I guess I could just get a bit of plate and bolt it across the bell housing, should be alright?

martinws · 06-12-10, 10:43 PM

Just stick a few bolts through the clutch and flywheel and your good to go. No more slipping clutch. Just have to start the car in gear, small price to pay.

hayesjim · 07-12-10, 12:57 AM

I drove my fiat 131 supermirafiori (?) 70 miles home without a clutch cable once!
That was fun. Sort of.

That cylinder sounds *really* hard to get to...

urS6 · 07-12-10, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hayesjim

I drove my fiat 131 supermirafiori (?) 70 miles home without a clutch cable once!

Snap! About 10 years ago I managed 120 miles from Farnborough to Evesham at rush hour with no clutch in my 80q. It needed huge concentration and anticipation because I really didn't want to come to a complete halt.

I probably got the best mpg ever on that occasion.

Jolfa · 07-12-10, 04:47 AM

I drove one of my old Golf 16v's around without a clutch for out 3 months before the friction disc chewed itself to pieces

I'd rather not repeat the performance, it was a bit of a ballache on a daily basis

Phil Payne · 07-12-10, 09:18 AM

Thinking about it - you may well get away with bleeding the clutch with the clutch plate out because the piston is captive in the slave cylinder. The only thing it might do is throw the actuating rod at you. You'd have to be careful when putting the engine back, because pushing the actuating rod back into the cylinder might force enough fluid up to overflow the reservoir.

To be honest, if you've got that much access it would amount to criminal negligence not to replace the cylinder.

Jolfa · 07-12-10, 01:31 PM

Is there a guide anywhere? I was only worried because it's MOT time tomorrow before I start gutting the bay!

06-12-10, 06:16 PM	#11
martinws Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Johnstone Posts: 723	Sounds like air in the system as said previously. its a bit of a bugger to get to. from underneith i took the N/S driveshaft out and got my head right up to get a good look at it and then basically bled it blind qith a helper. Not hard if you know what the slave looks like. A big peice of clear hose helps to see the bubbles if you dont have a bleed kit.

06-12-10, 06:22 PM	#12
Jolfa Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 349	I'll assume this is going to be 100x easier without the engine in then, I'll just hang on until I remove it

06-12-10, 07:21 PM	#14
Jolfa Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 349	I hate hydraulics, it's never straightforward I think hydro systems may have overtaken wiring in the "things I hate about cars" awards I guess I could just get a bit of plate and bolt it across the bell housing, should be alright?

06-12-10, 10:43 PM	#15
martinws Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Johnstone Posts: 723	Just stick a few bolts through the clutch and flywheel and your good to go. No more slipping clutch. Just have to start the car in gear, small price to pay.

07-12-10, 12:57 AM	#16
hayesjim Grown up member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 35	I drove my fiat 131 supermirafiori (?) 70 miles home without a clutch cable once! That was fun. Sort of. That cylinder sounds really hard to get to...

07-12-10, 04:47 AM	#18
Jolfa Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 349	I drove one of my old Golf 16v's around without a clutch for out 3 months before the friction disc chewed itself to pieces I'd rather not repeat the performance, it was a bit of a ballache on a daily basis

07-12-10, 09:18 AM	#19
Phil Payne Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,809	Thinking about it - you may well get away with bleeding the clutch with the clutch plate out because the piston is captive in the slave cylinder. The only thing it might do is throw the actuating rod at you. You'd have to be careful when putting the engine back, because pushing the actuating rod back into the cylinder might force enough fluid up to overflow the reservoir. To be honest, if you've got that much access it would amount to criminal negligence not to replace the cylinder.

07-12-10, 01:31 PM	#20
Jolfa Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 349	Is there a guide anywhere? I was only worried because it's MOT time tomorrow before I start gutting the bay!