Summer tyres in the wet, any experts ? - Page 2

Error404 · 12-03-14, 10:00 AM

Remember things like side wall stiffness and weight of the car, load on the tyre make a big difference from car to car in terms of performance and comfort. So someone saying a tyre is great on their MKII doesn't mean it will be just as good on an RS6 etc.

20vcqdriver · 12-03-14, 11:17 AM

I have tried all sorts on my Audi's and when I bought the A6 they had some unknown cheap tyres that quite frankly should not have been sold as a performance tyre as they were lethal in the wet despite good tread.
I quickly fitted some Goddyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics and in the 255/35/19 size on my A6 I have yet to get them to slip as I bottle out before they lose grip.
The Cq though is on Toyo's because unfortunately Goodyears top F1 tyre is not available in 205/50/15 and from my experience the next best one has been the Toyo, though seeing as I can now spin all 4 wheels in the wet I am begginning to think I need to swap to something else but overall been impressed by the Toyo's for the price

dgacampbell · 12-03-14, 05:14 PM

Just my opinion from my experience with tyres, I have always argued that I found the v tread patterned tyres where nowhere near as good as the straighter patterned tyres wet or dry. All the boy racer (experts )tell me I'm wrong lol.

ChrisG · 12-03-14, 08:19 PM

T1R is OK but rather long in the tooth these days. I've had several set on A4 quattros B5 & B6. I swapped over to Goodyear Assymetric 2 about 3 + years ago ( good wet weather and low noise in German tyre tests)
Conti are getting rubbish reviews ( from owners) for noise on new A3s at the moment.
Somebody even bought new tyres ( don't remember what ! ) as they couldn't live with the noise on motorways!

Isimmo · 12-03-14, 11:47 PM

All of our Audis are currently on T1R's.... They're not the ultimate tyre, and have their limitations in 'ultimate' grip, but they are strong, dependable and most importantly, predictable with their break away in most conditions, including standing water (until they are at/below tyre wear limit). Snow is outside their comfort zone, but even here, quattro and a brain box wired for self preservation can see them achieve most tasks... With the cars on our drive, we can destroy tyres quite happily, and T1R's like being destroyed, with good humour and predictability, without breaking the bank.

There's a lot to be said for a progressive breakaway tyre...

pimpdriver · 13-03-14, 07:06 AM

Auto Express do good tyre reviews.

SorenR · 13-03-14, 07:28 AM

I had Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 om my S4 B5... 240+ km/h in pouring rain on the Autobahn -No problem... T1R's... No way in hell could I do the same... Dry road however... Different story ;-)

ChrisG · 13-03-14, 11:01 AM

I had Pilot Sport ( not sure of number tho') on my S3 back in 2003 - and I thought they were rubbish ! They let go far too easily on damp roads for my liking!
The problem is different tyres seem very different on the same vehicle.
As I never do great quantity of miles I can afford to forget wear and go for grip, always, and as Issimo says there's a lot to say for a gentle let go

Gaz · 19-05-14, 08:37 AM

I have Vredistine sportrac 3 on my cq..

& Vredistine Ultrac Vorti on the A6. The Ultrac Vorti are B rated in the wet & don't have a V pattern. And you can always see clearly defined 'clean strips' under the wheel arch where the water has come off the tire and washed strait lines into the dirt under there.

I'd recommend them... I find them very good and choose them over many other brands like T1Rs

Gaz · 19-05-14, 09:05 AM

http://lovetyres.com/tyre/Ultrac-Vorti

some reviews of the the Ultrac Vorti

12-03-14, 11:17 AM	#12
20vcqdriver 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wirral Posts: 3,910	I have tried all sorts on my Audi's and when I bought the A6 they had some unknown cheap tyres that quite frankly should not have been sold as a performance tyre as they were lethal in the wet despite good tread. I quickly fitted some Goddyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics and in the 255/35/19 size on my A6 I have yet to get them to slip as I bottle out before they lose grip. The Cq though is on Toyo's because unfortunately Goodyears top F1 tyre is not available in 205/50/15 and from my experience the next best one has been the Toyo, though seeing as I can now spin all 4 wheels in the wet I am begginning to think I need to swap to something else but overall been impressed by the Toyo's for the price __________________ Coupe quattro 1986:-~450bhp + loooong list of mods! Audi A7 Bi-TDI SLine Black edition 2015 mapped to produce 600lb/ft torque! Audi S4 4.2 V8 cabriolet 2004:-

12-03-14, 11:47 PM	#15
Isimmo Super Moderator Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sissix-by-the-sea Posts: 15,218	All of our Audis are currently on T1R's.... They're not the ultimate tyre, and have their limitations in 'ultimate' grip, but they are strong, dependable and most importantly, predictable with their break away in most conditions, including standing water (until they are at/below tyre wear limit). Snow is outside their comfort zone, but even here, quattro and a brain box wired for self preservation can see them achieve most tasks... With the cars on our drive, we can destroy tyres quite happily, and T1R's like being destroyed, with good humour and predictability, without breaking the bank. There's a lot to be said for a progressive breakaway tyre... __________________ 1985 WR quattro, 1985 20vT RallyRep, 1993 MTM ABY S2 Avant. 2010 S3 Sportback.

13-03-14, 07:06 AM	#16
pimpdriver Devon Pastie Muncher Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Calne Wiltshire Posts: 7,530	Auto Express do good tyre reviews. __________________ Winter tyres now! Driving the B2 80CL as a daily and LOVING it!!!!

12-03-14, 10:00 AM	#11
Error404 Thobbing Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Staffs Posts: 490	Remember things like side wall stiffness and weight of the car, load on the tyre make a big difference from car to car in terms of performance and comfort. So someone saying a tyre is great on their MKII doesn't mean it will be just as good on an RS6 etc.

12-03-14, 05:14 PM	#13
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Just my opinion from my experience with tyres, I have always argued that I found the v tread patterned tyres where nowhere near as good as the straighter patterned tyres wet or dry. All the boy racer (experts )tell me I'm wrong lol.

12-03-14, 08:19 PM	#14
ChrisG Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bracknell, Berks. Posts: 1,465	T1R is OK but rather long in the tooth these days. I've had several set on A4 quattros B5 & B6. I swapped over to Goodyear Assymetric 2 about 3 + years ago ( good wet weather and low noise in German tyre tests) Conti are getting rubbish reviews ( from owners) for noise on new A3s at the moment. Somebody even bought new tyres ( don't remember what ! ) as they couldn't live with the noise on motorways!

13-03-14, 07:28 AM	#17
SorenR Grown up member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vesterlyng/Föllenslev, Denmark Posts: 563	I had Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 om my S4 B5... 240+ km/h in pouring rain on the Autobahn -No problem... T1R's... No way in hell could I do the same... Dry road however... Different story ;-)

13-03-14, 11:01 AM	#18
ChrisG Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bracknell, Berks. Posts: 1,465	I had Pilot Sport ( not sure of number tho') on my S3 back in 2003 - and I thought they were rubbish ! They let go far too easily on damp roads for my liking! The problem is different tyres seem very different on the same vehicle. As I never do great quantity of miles I can afford to forget wear and go for grip, always, and as Issimo says there's a lot to say for a gentle let go

19-05-14, 08:37 AM	#19
Gaz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Five Cylinder heaven Posts: 1,493	I have Vredistine sportrac 3 on my cq.. & Vredistine Ultrac Vorti on the A6. The Ultrac Vorti are B rated in the wet & don't have a V pattern. And you can always see clearly defined 'clean strips' under the wheel arch where the water has come off the tire and washed strait lines into the dirt under there. I'd recommend them... I find them very good and choose them over many other brands like T1Rs

19-05-14, 09:05 AM	#20
Gaz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Five Cylinder heaven Posts: 1,493	http://lovetyres.com/tyre/Ultrac-Vorti some reviews of the the Ultrac Vorti