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07-02-19, 11:08 PM | #111 |
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Brilliant....... Get a load of the Guy in the red tracksuit top telling the SNP on the "Motherwell" Question time panel right now how it is!!! Top man knows his stuff and put her straight. It's on now but you'll get it on catchup up or Youtube. Last edited by vorsprung durch technik; 07-02-19 at 11:14 PM. |
07-02-19, 11:27 PM | #112 |
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They've been trying to 'reform' the EU for decades. How many more will it take?
My father's generation fought for a free Europe (49 & 83 Squadrons) and were all for everyone getting on and prospering after their sacrifices, but not for the gradual erosion of sovereignty - that after all was why they risked their lives in Lancasters all those years to retain, not to mention the sacrifices of my great uncles a generation before in the trenches. As political influence gravitated more towards Bonn/Berlin and Paris they found it ironic at first then disturbing. The idea of peace in Europe being down to the EEC/EU must be considered nonsense. We owe it to NATO, especially the US forces that were stationed in Europe under the American nuclear umbrella. I fear any US withdrawal from NATO, as love them or loathe them, the Yanks are the only ones who have the means to face any major military threat to the west. There is no one left among the leaders of the world with a memory of World War 2, so we face a real danger now more than ever of some nut in the world crossing a line without appreciating the consequences. Furthermore, the idea of conflict in Europe being less likely within the EU family is naive. Some of the worst conflicts arise within families and this will always be the case. Deep rooted resentments and differences can always raise their ugly heads between people, regardless of how much water has flowed under the bridge. We've seen that in the former Yugoslavia and we see it now in the Irish Backstop debate, Gibraltar and Basque desire for separation from Spain to name a few. I'm always surprised at how little the subject of national sovereignty features in the arguments put forward by Remainers. It's just as precious as peace, economic prosperity, human rights, democracy , freedom of speech etc. Anyone who doubts that should take a walk through the cemeteries in northern France. The UK will be fine. |
08-02-19, 09:28 PM | #113 |
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Yes that's EU all over, the rich and powerful all on the EU gravy train at the expense of their people they are supposed to represent.
The quicker we leave the better and perhaps then we should then focus on the corrupt Politian's in the UK Whilst we fight amongst ourselves on what best for the UK they are still getting richer and richer. I bet in ten years time regardless we have a deal, no deal, leave or not leave, they we be still at it in one form or another. If we win this battle with the EU we still have many more closer to home before we can win any war. |
08-02-19, 10:35 PM | #114 | |
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Read the greens-efa.eu Members section. That says it all Not gona comment express.co.uk. That's made by Nigel Farage. Last edited by Sandro; 08-02-19 at 10:45 PM. |
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09-02-19, 02:40 PM | #115 |
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There's no way to quantify the full extent of corruption in the EU!
The full accounts of the EU have not been audited and accepted for the last fifteen years No audited accounts means no way to count the money in or out
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14-03-19, 08:44 PM | #116 |
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I don't normally comment on political stuff, but this shambles has my blood boiling & my will to live walking out of the room.
Our pillars of democracy have fallen around the deaf ears of our representatives and they alone are to blame. To top it off May wants a 3rd attempt at getting "her" deal voted through, just to waste more time.............. Albert Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result Seems to me he had a point.
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14-03-19, 08:57 PM | #117 | |
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NO! NO! NO! we cannot consider not voting. If nothing else we need to reform the political system and make our representatives do our bidding or they're out
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14-03-19, 10:40 PM | #118 |
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Don't give up on Democracy folks, it's flawed, but it's the best governing system civilization has managed to come up with. The alternatives are always worse in the end......
When you get the democracy blues just think of all those white headstones in France..... |
15-03-19, 08:25 PM | #119 |
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At the moment Article 50 is enshrined in law and on our statute books and unless the law is changed must complete by 29 March.
I don't believe (hope) that there is the numbers to get it changed. So it's out we go
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16-03-19, 10:16 PM | #120 | |
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