NG - Will it fit. - Page 2

20vcqdriver · 10-08-11, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dgacampbell

Problematic is an understatement, nitemare of a setup on the NG, Its also interesting, with the cc increase, and all the emmission control ballocks, that the NG is 4bhp down on the KV!
As far as i'm aware the Ng also has bigger inlet valves? Perhaps the older K-Jet system could be connected to the NG inlet manifold?
I'm interested to hear how this project gets on!

by this time next year i hope to have got rid ok the Pita KEIII-jetronic injection out of my own vehicle, in favour of an electronic setup!

I'd just keep everything up top and swap over the blocks to get the extra cc. With this setup you should have 170lb/ft torque and around 180bhp if you have swapped the cam.
Fitting the likes of Lumenition electronic injection a good idea though expensive. On a WR quattro 10V, Fitting this kit alone can enable the power to reach a max of around 330bhp.

dgacampbell · 10-08-11, 10:35 AM

Oh what cam are you talking about m8, i'm interested, if a cam can give me that much of an increase? how badly does it affect the smooth running of the engine tho??

20vcqdriver · 10-08-11, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dgacampbell

Oh what cam are you talking about m8, i'm interested, if a cam can give me that much of an increase? how badly does it affect the smooth running of the engine tho??

Cam alone will not do that, but booty has a ported big valve head if I am not mistaken so that pushes the engine upto 160bhp on its own, as the heads are the single biggest restriction on these engines. With a capacity increase power probably only goes up 5bhp but the torque will be noticably improved. A 268 cam will not effect running too much low down but provides a much keener mid and top end ...

dgacampbell · 10-08-11, 10:49 AM

Ah rite, the only cams i can find are the shrick ones, are there any others that you know of , without the premium lol :P

4v6 · 10-08-11, 10:50 AM

Richards head actually has standard valve sizes which iirc is as per the rally vehicle.

There are however some further improvements that can be made to that particular head of his, given the extra info ive gained by testing various aspects of them.

20vcqdriver · 10-08-11, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dgacampbell

Ah rite, the only cams i can find are the shrick ones, are there any others that you know of , without the premium lol :P

I have tried various cams in the past and for these engines Schrick are definatly worth the money

dgacampbell · 10-08-11, 11:15 AM

Just out of interest, having done it before, whats involved on fitting to an engine with 53,000 miles on it? Anything else need replaced at the same time? And how badly does it affect economy (in normal driving not racing) ?
Tia.

20vcqdriver · 10-08-11, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dgacampbell

Just out of interest, having done it before, whats involved on fitting to an engine with 53,000 miles on it? Anything else need replaced at the same time? And how badly does it affect economy (in normal driving not racing) ?
Tia.

It's just run in then

You might want to look at replacing the hydraulic followers at the same time and use a good cam lube if it doesn't come with the cam.
Fuel economy may drop a tad but only because you find your foot is on the carpet more. Steady cruising should make no or little difference.
I used to get 26-30mpg out of my 2337cc KV mostly and nearer 20 if having some fun

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dgacampbell · 10-08-11, 11:46 AM

Lol i think the problem is its not run in yet, 53000 miles from jan 1990, all 132 horses are sleeping lmao its done 700 miles from i got it in march, and its really not gonna be drivin many more miles till next year!

nice, so its a job i could maybe undertake myself then!

20vcqdriver · 10-08-11, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dgacampbell

Lol i think the problem is its not run in yet, 53000 miles from jan 1990, all 132 horses are sleeping lmao its done 700 miles from i got it in march, and its really not gonna be drivin many more miles till next year!

nice, so its a job i could maybe undertake myself then!

If you're handy mechanically, yes and it goes wthout saying that you should do a cam belt and water pump change unless they have been done in the last 12 months

10-08-11, 10:35 AM	#12
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Oh what cam are you talking about m8, i'm interested, if a cam can give me that much of an increase? how badly does it affect the smooth running of the engine tho??

10-08-11, 10:49 AM	#14
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Ah rite, the only cams i can find are the shrick ones, are there any others that you know of , without the premium lol :P

10-08-11, 10:50 AM	#15
4v6 Ex Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,565	Richards head actually has standard valve sizes which iirc is as per the rally vehicle. There are however some further improvements that can be made to that particular head of his, given the extra info ive gained by testing various aspects of them.

10-08-11, 11:15 AM	#17
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Just out of interest, having done it before, whats involved on fitting to an engine with 53,000 miles on it? Anything else need replaced at the same time? And how badly does it affect economy (in normal driving not racing) ? Tia.

10-08-11, 11:46 AM	#19
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Lol i think the problem is its not run in yet, 53000 miles from jan 1990, all 132 horses are sleeping lmao its done 700 miles from i got it in march, and its really not gonna be drivin many more miles till next year! nice, so its a job i could maybe undertake myself then!