*HELP* Worrying noise 90 2.3NG - Page 3

Daveymaclad · 30-01-15, 06:04 PM

Well I hope you get it sorted at not too great a cost matey.

I know you've taken the car to two places but don't underestimate just how old the technology is in these cars. Few mechanics will remember seeing cars like the ones we own let alone work on them! Hence suggesting that you try a VAG specialist who has some old fart still working on them who was working on them first time around!

dgacampbell · 30-01-15, 06:14 PM

You hit the nail on the head, I have searched far and wide, my guy I use for basic servicing is pretty good by all respects, and of age to have worked on these, but mine was the first he has worked on lol.
Even my nearest vw dealer who sold these cars before they had to have separate showrooms only has mechanics old enough to have barely recovered from nappy rash!

It is frustrating to be polite about it.

Anyway I have decided, If nothing else, If I can get it a mile away from my house, The RAC can take it to my mechanic!

audizzz · 30-01-15, 06:39 PM

Hi, if you are doing the timing belt then change the water pump at the same time. Were the top hoses under pressure when the top of the rad was boiling? Water pumps can get noisy when on the way out, if you do drive it any further in it's current condition, then the head gasket will be the next to go.

Where have all the "real mechanics gone" by the way, the days when you drove into the yard and they were diagnosing the problem as you approached?

Have been very luck in the past to have met the odd one and had cheap repairs instead of expensive rip offs.

Recently took my citroen to a "specialist" (had just had 8 new spheres fitted by the way, 2 months previously and knew there was something wrong with one of them) too far to return for repair, 500 mile round trip, and was told there was nothing wron with the car.

Knowing my magic carpet ride had vanished along with stories of unicorns and fairies, took it to a very well respected citroen repair shop, who immediately diagnosed a failed front sphere, replaced it, and will now find me in the midst of a novel by grimm.

dgacampbell · 30-01-15, 07:02 PM

Top hose tp the radiator was to hot to hold onto yet rad was cold.

Real mechanics? The don't train them anymore. The first guy That told me it was tappets, he insisted in coming out with one of those obd reader thingies lol, telling me if the car is fuel injected so he could read fault codes to tell exactly what was wrong.

Didn't mater how often I told him that the ecu in my car was prehistoric and did not have an obd port.

If a computer doesn't tell them whats wrong they are stuck!

Sandro · 30-01-15, 09:51 PM

why don't You take timing belt cover off which comes off very easy and roker cover off? one of these will show You "damage" straight away and both are easy to remove

missfire · 30-01-15, 11:49 PM

Not a nice sound whatever it is.

If it's a water pump problem, are these the ones where the impeller can break off? Could be that?

Had a noise recently in the c5 shitroad, the same but much worse, convinced myself it was a cam chain tensioner pad that had fallen off, took the top off one side of the engine (not a ten minute job on a 2.7t) and found out, there was no power steering fluid in the fekr

So you never know.

But going by the frequency sounds too frequent to be a single tappet or little end? Maybe not though, they (pistons) are doing a fair number of strokes at even low revs.

Andy10v · 31-01-15, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgacampbell

Top hose tp the radiator was to hot to hold onto yet rad was cold.

Check the radiator is not blocked when you have everything apart, stick hose in and make sure it runs through ok.

(Last overheating NG I fixed was a blocked radiator)

Andy10v · 31-01-15, 12:04 AM

The knock noise is weird, does not sound like tappets to me.

It does not quite sound like its in time with the engine to me.

I take it you have checked nothing is loose?

dgacampbell · 31-01-15, 12:21 AM

No idea guys.

I let it cool down for a few hours, then got 2.3 miles from the house before it lost power and died.

Thankfully far enough away from home that the RAC had to lift it and take me onwards to my destination. (After a bit of arguing with the company they sent out to lift me who only wanted to take me back home. Had to phone the RAC as had paid for onward journey cover, and they had to sort it out lol.)

Best £6.50 a month I have ever spent, and only recently joined for the first time in my life.......... If I was the supersticious type i would think i brought this upon myself lol.

Wishing I had the £1650 spare for the 20v auto in Lisburn........... who knows, maybe the lottery will go my way tomorrow night!

missfire · 31-01-15, 12:27 AM

Sounds like the PAS pump to me. Definitey has the right amount of the right fluid in it?

Doesn't help the cooling issue though! Maybe boiled your steering oil, big bubbles make weird noises.

30-01-15, 06:04 PM	#21
Daveymaclad 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bursledon - Southampton Posts: 2,575	Well I hope you get it sorted at not too great a cost matey. I know you've taken the car to two places but don't underestimate just how old the technology is in these cars. Few mechanics will remember seeing cars like the ones we own let alone work on them! Hence suggesting that you try a VAG specialist who has some old fart still working on them who was working on them first time around! __________________ 2008 RS6 avant SOLD 1988 UR Quattro

30-01-15, 11:49 PM	#26
missfire making wooden things Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: cow land Posts: 8,156	Not a nice sound whatever it is. If it's a water pump problem, are these the ones where the impeller can break off? Could be that? Had a noise recently in the c5 shitroad, the same but much worse, convinced myself it was a cam chain tensioner pad that had fallen off, took the top off one side of the engine (not a ten minute job on a 2.7t) and found out, there was no power steering fluid in the fekr So you never know. But going by the frequency sounds too frequent to be a single tappet or little end? Maybe not though, they (pistons) are doing a fair number of strokes at even low revs. Last edited by missfire; 30-01-15 at 11:51 PM.

31-01-15, 12:04 AM	#28
Andy10v Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stirling Posts: 861	The knock noise is weird, does not sound like tappets to me. It does not quite sound like its in time with the engine to me. I take it you have checked nothing is loose? __________________ 2005 350z GT Sold-1992 3B S2 coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, forged rods, rear torsen.... Sold-1993 ABY coupe

30-01-15, 06:14 PM	#22
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	You hit the nail on the head, I have searched far and wide, my guy I use for basic servicing is pretty good by all respects, and of age to have worked on these, but mine was the first he has worked on lol. Even my nearest vw dealer who sold these cars before they had to have separate showrooms only has mechanics old enough to have barely recovered from nappy rash! It is frustrating to be polite about it. Anyway I have decided, If nothing else, If I can get it a mile away from my house, The RAC can take it to my mechanic!

30-01-15, 06:39 PM	#23
audizzz Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 125	Hi, if you are doing the timing belt then change the water pump at the same time. Were the top hoses under pressure when the top of the rad was boiling? Water pumps can get noisy when on the way out, if you do drive it any further in it's current condition, then the head gasket will be the next to go. Where have all the "real mechanics gone" by the way, the days when you drove into the yard and they were diagnosing the problem as you approached? Have been very luck in the past to have met the odd one and had cheap repairs instead of expensive rip offs. Recently took my citroen to a "specialist" (had just had 8 new spheres fitted by the way, 2 months previously and knew there was something wrong with one of them) too far to return for repair, 500 mile round trip, and was told there was nothing wron with the car. Knowing my magic carpet ride had vanished along with stories of unicorns and fairies, took it to a very well respected citroen repair shop, who immediately diagnosed a failed front sphere, replaced it, and will now find me in the midst of a novel by grimm.

30-01-15, 07:02 PM	#24
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Top hose tp the radiator was to hot to hold onto yet rad was cold. Real mechanics? The don't train them anymore. The first guy That told me it was tappets, he insisted in coming out with one of those obd reader thingies lol, telling me if the car is fuel injected so he could read fault codes to tell exactly what was wrong. Didn't mater how often I told him that the ecu in my car was prehistoric and did not have an obd port. If a computer doesn't tell them whats wrong they are stuck!

30-01-15, 09:51 PM	#25
Sandro Grown up member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 651	why don't You take timing belt cover off which comes off very easy and roker cover off? one of these will show You "damage" straight away and both are easy to remove

31-01-15, 12:21 AM	#29
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	No idea guys. I let it cool down for a few hours, then got 2.3 miles from the house before it lost power and died. Thankfully far enough away from home that the RAC had to lift it and take me onwards to my destination. (After a bit of arguing with the company they sent out to lift me who only wanted to take me back home. Had to phone the RAC as had paid for onward journey cover, and they had to sort it out lol.) Best £6.50 a month I have ever spent, and only recently joined for the first time in my life.......... If I was the supersticious type i would think i brought this upon myself lol. Wishing I had the £1650 spare for the 20v auto in Lisburn........... who knows, maybe the lottery will go my way tomorrow night!

31-01-15, 12:27 AM	#30
missfire making wooden things Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: cow land Posts: 8,156	Sounds like the PAS pump to me. Definitey has the right amount of the right fluid in it? Doesn't help the cooling issue though! Maybe boiled your steering oil, big bubbles make weird noises.