Group B Worship: Ford RS200 and Audi Sport Quattro

saladdodger · 02-02-12, 12:56 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCE4...e5FAAAAAAAAAAA

dgacampbell · 02-02-12, 07:47 AM

Good Lad, i enjoyed that for breakfast lol

rtz62 · 02-02-12, 08:13 AM

It's on a Pistonheads feature today.
Back in the 80's the brother of a girl who I went to school with bought 2 RS200's for the then heady sum of £24k each.
Took me for a ride in one, and I can confirm they are like a tractor at low speeds; very agricultural sounding engine n transmission, but get it moving and wow!!!
Sorry to disagree with the article, but I think the RS200 was the better car and had potential to totally mullah the Audi had GrpB continued...

rtz62 · 02-02-12, 09:33 AM

Wow, thought I'd have been shit down in flames by now.....
Guess my view is the 'correct' one then?????

SteveT63 · 02-02-12, 02:10 PM

There is no doubt that although Audi ruled the early days, but by the time the S4 and T16 were born, it was on borrowed time. Makes me wonder if they knew it as well, taking the decision to quit halfway through 86, sights set on the touring car world maybe?

john johnson · 02-02-12, 03:06 PM

Time would have told but the s1 e2 was the reply even if a tad cumbersome but the replacement was on the drawing board .... To say the rs200 would have wiped the floor is pure speculation , you could say the same about any of em , the 6r4 ... The lot as they would all have evolved

dgacampbell · 02-02-12, 06:05 PM

They happen to be 2 of my favourite rally cars ever.... as for which was better, not caring, but i would like to have both on my driveway lol!

Rickman · 02-02-12, 06:41 PM

nice, this will go with the rest of the group b vids Ive ripped from the tube. saveyoutube ftw.

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Sorry to disagree with the article, but I think the RS200 was the better car and had potential to totally mullah the Audi had GrpB continued...

Absolutly, given the last evolution was due for release at the demise, 700+ hp would have ended it all.

Isimmo · 02-02-12, 08:32 PM

The quattro ran out of 'advantage' at the end of Group 4, from then on it was a good car adapted to the regulations rather than a purpose built car built to the regulations. And whilst it did have some success in A1/2, sport and E2' they were quite often akin to 'raffles, the opportunist thief', rather than dominance. The RS200 was the juxtaposition of this, being one of the very, very last of the Group B built cars.

Bugmaster · 03-02-12, 09:53 AM

I think Audi developed and built two mid engines 'quattro S' for the group 'S' formula which was planned after group 'B' in 1987. Unfortunalty group 'S' nor the 175mph Audi 002 quattro 'S' ever came to fruition as safety became paramount.

I think this car still had the 2,144cc 20 valve engine producing 500+ bhp.

Its ashame this this car was never raced against the other mid engine cars like the RS200 delta S4 and 205 T16 etc but we will never know!!

I do believe Walter Rohrl did test drive this car and was more than impressed by it.

02-02-12, 02:10 PM	#5
SteveT63 Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,045	There is no doubt that although Audi ruled the early days, but by the time the S4 and T16 were born, it was on borrowed time. Makes me wonder if they knew it as well, taking the decision to quit halfway through 86, sights set on the touring car world maybe? __________________ Peace...........through superior acceleration! T85 1985 90quattro I5 20vT T81 1983 80 Sport Red T81 1983 80 Sport Silver

02-02-12, 03:06 PM	#6
john johnson Moderator of sausages Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sheffield Posts: 13,331	Time would have told but the s1 e2 was the reply even if a tad cumbersome but the replacement was on the drawing board .... To say the rs200 would have wiped the floor is pure speculation , you could say the same about any of em , the 6r4 ... The lot as they would all have evolved __________________ Mr OCD http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/jsquatts/ Daily rs4 b7 with buckets that play havoc with my piles And if you are reading this as James may would say ' you're a cock '

02-02-12, 08:32 PM	#9
Isimmo Super Moderator Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sissix-by-the-sea Posts: 15,218	The quattro ran out of 'advantage' at the end of Group 4, from then on it was a good car adapted to the regulations rather than a purpose built car built to the regulations. And whilst it did have some success in A1/2, sport and E2' they were quite often akin to 'raffles, the opportunist thief', rather than dominance. The RS200 was the juxtaposition of this, being one of the very, very last of the Group B built cars. __________________ 1985 WR quattro, 1985 20vT RallyRep, 1993 MTM ABY S2 Avant. 2010 S3 Sportback.

02-02-12, 07:47 AM	#2
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	Good Lad, i enjoyed that for breakfast lol

02-02-12, 08:13 AM	#3
rtz62 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,527	It's on a Pistonheads feature today. Back in the 80's the brother of a girl who I went to school with bought 2 RS200's for the then heady sum of £24k each. Took me for a ride in one, and I can confirm they are like a tractor at low speeds; very agricultural sounding engine n transmission, but get it moving and wow!!! Sorry to disagree with the article, but I think the RS200 was the better car and had potential to totally mullah the Audi had GrpB continued...

02-02-12, 09:33 AM	#4
rtz62 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,527	Wow, thought I'd have been shit down in flames by now..... Guess my view is the 'correct' one then?????

02-02-12, 06:05 PM	#7
dgacampbell Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Co.Armagh, N.Ireland Posts: 1,442	They happen to be 2 of my favourite rally cars ever.... as for which was better, not caring, but i would like to have both on my driveway lol!

03-02-12, 09:53 AM	#10
Bugmaster Grown up member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Devon/Cornwall Posts: 176	I think Audi developed and built two mid engines 'quattro S' for the group 'S' formula which was planned after group 'B' in 1987. Unfortunalty group 'S' nor the 175mph Audi 002 quattro 'S' ever came to fruition as safety became paramount. I think this car still had the 2,144cc 20 valve engine producing 500+ bhp. Its ashame this this car was never raced against the other mid engine cars like the RS200 delta S4 and 205 T16 etc but we will never know!! I do believe Walter Rohrl did test drive this car and was more than impressed by it.