Boge Turbo gas and lowering springs? opinions please?

[Gaz]

righto,.. my new CQ has a set of new BOGE Turbo gas shocks.. the rears have been fitted by the previous owner 'matt c' but not the fronts yet.

I think they are just the original springs AFAIK.

So i was thinking, when I get round to fitting the fronts, i could lower it at the same time (& do the back obviously) ? And seeing as hard earned money has already been invested in a set of new boge turbo gas shocks, I might as well use them.

I'm just asking myself what springs are best to lower them with, that will work with these shocks?

I'm thinking a 40 mm drop shouldn't spoil the car too much, as it stands on its toes as standard anyway!, compared to a UR.

[Gaz]

Or do u think these shocks are too close to 'standard spec' to be concidering lowering the car with them on ?

I must admit, It seems a little 'chavy' to use lower springs but standard shocks.. Or are these turbo gas jobbys quite good at there job?

[Booty]

Boge Turbo Gas are cracking shockers, straight out of the box with just the right amount of stiffness. Inexpensive too compared to everything else. Get a decent set of springs, like H & R e.t.c.

[Isimmo]

Originally Posted by Booty

Boge Turbo Gas are cracking shockers, straight out of the box with just the right amount of stiffness. Inexpensive too compared to everything else. Get a decent set of springs, like H & R e.t.c.

Totally agree, my old GT had Boge Turbo Gas and Boge springs all round... It was stunning, then changed to Koni and it was never the same again...

At that time Boge Turbo Gas and Spring kits were no longer available. Is that still the case..?

Highly unlikely I know, but they don't do a full kit for a CQ still do they?

[20vcqdriver]

Boge Turbo gas are a good upgrade for standard springs only, these were fine on mine until I fitted the H&R springs.. they just did not work well as they were overpowered by the stiffer springs, hence why I fitted the well tried and tested Koni adjustables all round. Can be set up to match any uprated spring you decide to use...
I have tried numerous combinations over the 18 years I have had my car and the present set up is by far the best.

[Isimmo]

Originally Posted by 20vcqdriver

Boge Turbo gas are a good upgrade for standard springs only, these were fine on mine until I fitted the H&R springs.. they just did not work well as they were overpowered by the stiffer springs, hence why I fitted the well tried and tested Koni adjustables all round. Can be set up to match any uprated spring you decide to use...
I have tried numerous combinations over the 18 years I have had my car and the present set up is by far the best.

Our old set-up was a matched kit, which is probably why it worked so well, I think the moral of this story, certainly mine, is that you can get a superb set-up on a GT or quattro, but likewise you can make a complete pigs ear of it if you mix-and-match the wrong products... It's an expensive game to play, and can make your car feel totally pants. I know, trust me, I've been there.

[Gaz]

Originally Posted by Isimmo

Totally agree, my old GT had Boge Turbo Gas and Boge springs all round... It was stunning, then changed to Koni and it was never the same again...

At that time Boge Turbo Gas and Spring kits were no longer available. Is that still the case..?

Highly unlikely I know, but they don't do a full kit for a CQ still do they?

So i should find some lowering springs from boge then?

Originally Posted by 20vcqdriver

Boge Turbo gas are a good upgrade for standard springs only, these were fine on mine until I fitted the H&R springs.. they just did not work well as they were overpowered by the stiffer springs, hence why I fitted the well tried and tested Koni adjustables all round. Can be set up to match any uprated spring you decide to use...
I have tried numerous combinations over the 18 years I have had my car and the present set up is by far the best.

How many mm was the drop with the H&R 's ? just wondering if that might have had something to do with it?

Originally Posted by Booty

Boge Turbo Gas are cracking shockers, straight out of the box with just the right amount of stiffness. Inexpensive too compared to everything else. Get a decent set of springs, like H & R e.t.c.

Or. Are there any 35-40mm lowered springs, but with a 'lesser' amount of stiffening than H&R? would that help cure the problem that 20vcqdriver had with this set up, perhaps?

All very differing opinions. Basically i want it lower because CQ's look ridicules at the front IMO, but without making the handling worse, And I would like to keep these Boge shocks if possible., . It seems very waist full to junk them.

[Martc]

I don't think the opions are that different, sounds like if you can get boge springs to go with your shocks then thats a good match.

Otherwise its adjustable Koni's and H+R's all round....

[Isimmo]

Originally Posted by Martc

I don't think the opions are that different, sounds like if you can get boge springs to go with your shocks then thats a good match.

Otherwise its adjustable Koni's and H+R's all round....

Sounds fair to me...

The Boge springs I had were stiffer and lowered the car by 25mm... As stated elswhere recently, to lower the car too much causes issues, IMHO 45mm is about as far as you want to go to preserve some form of integrity to the suspension.

[20vcqdriver]

Originally Posted by Martc

I don't think the opions are that different, sounds like if you can get boge springs to go with your shocks then thats a good match.

Otherwise its adjustable Koni's and H+R's all round....

Ditto exactly.
The Boge set I once had included the springs. But having used various spring makes over the years I got the impression that the Boge ones were lowered 25mm but the actual rate was pretty much standard and from memory supposedly 15% uprated which is what you would get if shortening a standard spring. The H&R's are a good 25 to 30% uprated and in order to get a level ride height I had to reposition the bottom spring mounting plates on the struts (a professional job). I have been told the springs are based on those from the Ur quattro which would explain this. Worth the work as the ride is no harder than a modern factory sports set up with very little roll (though my reaer ARB might have some effect on that) with the nose lift on acceleration greatly reduced and still comfortable enough on long journeys.