at last 5 CYCLINDER tuning info

[timmyB4]

at last 5 CYCLINDER tuning info . though it all seems to be EFI R5 adaptic big maf kit .

http://schorsch9999.forumprofi.de/index.php

[msh]

I've seen some of this info. There's a one problem with that 10v tuning - owners for some strange reason are willing to get high rev power from 2v engines, which won't make it. You will sacrifice low rev torque for small amount of high rev power. There's basically no point of this kind of tuning for 10v engines - if you want power from NA engine, get yourself 7A, it is capable of 300 bhp. 10v needs B4/C4 configuration hardware + 2.5 TDI crank + three exit manifold and maybe 2.0 intake manifold - all to get more low rev torque and a couple of dozen horses in the process. In any case, if you want power, first thing to do - EFI - 2.3 10v makes about 150 bhp without KE-jetronic

[Targus]

same as above, it will cost you the earth to get a decent power out the 10v when a 20v conversion is cheaper, sounds good and provides more power.

[timmyB4]

Originally Posted by msh

I've seen some of this info. There's a one problem with that 10v tuning - owners for some strange reason are willing to get high rev power from 2v engines, which won't make it. You will sacrifice low rev torque for small amount of high rev power. There's basically no point of this kind of tuning for 10v engines - if you want power from NA engine, get yourself 7A, it is capable of 300 bhp. 10v needs B4/C4 configuration hardware + 2.5 TDI crank + three exit manifold and maybe 2.0 intake manifold - all to get more low rev torque and a couple of dozen horses in the process. In any case, if you want power, first thing to do - EFI - 2.3 10v makes about 150 bhp without KE-jetronic

Originally Posted by Targus

same as above, it will cost you the earth to get a decent power out the 10v when a 20v conversion is cheaper, sounds good and provides more power.

thanks guys . if the EFi only gives me 13bhp its a no go , and its £900 including MAF .

time to save and save for the 20vt transplant LOL

[Andy10v]

Originally Posted by msh

if you want power from NA engine, get yourself 7A, it is capable of 300 bhp.

Yes, but a 300bhp 7A is mental money, has a crazy powerband and I would imagine a pretty short llifespan.

A 20vt swap would be soo much cheaper, nicer to driver etc.

Taking a 10vt above 300bhp becomes a lot more expensive than just using a 20vt.

[Andy10v]

Originally Posted by timmyB4

thanks guys . if the EFi only gives me 13bhp its a no go , and its £900 including MAF .

time to save and save for the 20vt transplant LOL

There is a complete 3B S2 on ebay for £1300, swap the engine, loom and ecu into your car, sell the rest and your swap will cost you very little.

Spend £150 on a chip and you have 280bhp.

[timmyB4]

Originally Posted by Andy10v

There is a complete 3B S2 on ebay for £1300, swap the engine, loom and ecu into your car, sell the rest and your swap will cost you very little.

Spend £150 on a chip and you have 280bhp.

thats the idea with another £1300 to £2000 to Mr TONX 4X4 ,plus siemens injectors £200 ,custom manifold £350, hybrid turbo built out of left my over bits plus 360 degree bearings and such by CR TURBO's ( around £350 ).
Then there will another £500 for sundries and forgotten items .

save i am going to have to stay in and not go out and play for 2 months or so lol . cheers for the advice people . (-:

[Andy10v]

Also budget for a live map if you are going custom.

[andydunn2]

Originally Posted by timmyB4

thats the idea with another £1300 to £2000 to Mr TONX 4X4 ,plus siemens injectors £200 ,custom manifold £350, hybrid turbo built out of left my over bits plus 360 degree bearings and such by CR TURBO's ( around £350 ).
Then there will another £500 for sundries and forgotten items .

save i am going to have to stay in and not go out and play for 2 months or so lol . cheers for the advice people . (-:

Stock 3b will give you 200+ BHP and with only fwd will be a handful. Get the 3b in and then worry about upgrades as you go along.