Climate change scam exposed- possibly.

4v6 · 20-11-09, 01:23 PM

Looks like us scepticals may have been right all along.

The Climate Research Unit has been hacked and incriminating emails released showing collusion and illegal destruction of data that didnt support the global warming, ahem "theory".

Havent gone into it in any detail but looks like theyve all been doing what we thought- fabricating evidence to fit the "theory".

Naughty boys indeed...AGW takes a dive into the ice age...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/1...iles-released/

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...hadley_hacked/

Oh dear...

type81 · 20-11-09, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4v6

Looks like us scepticals may have been right all along.

The Climate Research Unit has been hacked and incriminating emails released showing collusion and illegal destruction of data that didnt support the global warming, ahem "theory".

Havent gone into it in any detail but looks like theyve all been doing what we thought- fabricating evidence to fit the "theory".

Naughty boys indeed...AGW takes a dive into the ice age...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/1...iles-released/

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...hadley_hacked/

Oh dear...

Mind control! They been doing it for years! Nwo

Ringmaster · 20-11-09, 01:42 PM

Bet we don't hear anything of it on the general news.

There is just too much money to be made out of global warming.

Puglife · 20-11-09, 03:47 PM

Whats ironic is that its gone on for so long and will continue to.... its nothing more than extreme blinkering of public to make it into a cash cow...

A paper came out in 2005 showing signs of forrests beneath the ice in antarctica, which shows that the world before the ice age was very different and Global Warming is in fact a natural process and part of "the circle of life"... As a side note how can CO2 be bad when tree's and plants need it to make oxygen which in turn we need???? Planting more trees would seem logical instead of taxing people to drive 5miles less each time....

People want to feel safe, tax them and state it will help the enviroment and save lives and the future of humanity.... Sea levels are rising by natural processes, sadly you have to deal with it.
Interesting fact from a recent speech, if all the 4x4 and SUV's in the world were taken off the road and not replaced, it would cut the CO2 content in the world by 0.95%.....

Emjay · 20-11-09, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Puglife

Interesting fact from a recent speech, if all the 4x4 and SUV's in the world were taken off the road and not replaced, it would cut the CO2 content in the world by 0.95%.....

more importantly I wouldn't have to put up with those insufferable idiots in the mornings taking little Johnny Snotpants for his education or having some twat in a Range Rover Sport crammed up my arse on the motorway bullying his way past all and sundry. The only people who should own these monstrosities of cars are farmers and people who actually need them for work..........

now see what you've done Jay, got me all ranting and stressed

styler · 20-11-09, 06:57 PM

EVERYTHING IS LIES.... global warming, religion.girls dont watch porn... ALL LIES... ha ha .. saw 2012 lastnite... hollywood rubbish... passed the nite though..

amanda · 20-11-09, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringmaster

Bet we don't hear anything of it on the general news.

There is just too much money to be made out of global warming.

That is so correct

amanda · 21-11-09, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringmaster

Bet we don't hear anything of it on the general news.

OHHHH it has

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ture-data.html

amanda · 25-11-09, 01:12 AM

Ohhh even better

Scientist in climate change 'cover-up' storm told to quit
By David Derbyshire
Last updated at 12:02 AM on 25th November 2009

Comments (0) Add to My Stories
Pressure: Professor Phil Jones

The scientist at the heart of the climate change scandal was under growing pressure to quit last night.
George Monbiot, a leading environmentalist, said Phil Jones should resign from the Climatic Research Unit over leaked emails that appear to show researchers suppressed scientific data.
More emails came to light yesterday, including one in which an American climatologist admitted it was a travesty that scientists could not explain a lack of global warming in recent years.
In another note, UK researchers dismissed the work of scientists challenging global warming as 'crap'.

Another appeared to call for pressure on the BBC after a reporter suggested that evidence for rising temperatures since 2001 was thin.
In one of the most damning messages, Professor Jones appeared to respond to the death of a climate sceptic with the words 'in an odd way this is cheering news!'.
The leak has been a huge embarrassment to the climate unit at the University of East Anglia, which is a global leader in its field.
Although there is no hint of evidence that climate change is not real, the emails appear to show researchers manipulating raw data and discussing how to dodge Freedom of Information requests.
Yesterday, Mr Monbiot, who writes on green issues, said the emails could scarcely be more damaging.

More...'I won't let the b*****s out until they've done a deal': Climate change envoy John Prescott reveals unusual approach to solving global warming
Global warming could lead to increased flooding and rising food prices in UK, claim leading scientists

'I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I'm dismayed and deeply shaken,' he said. 'There are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad.
'There appears to be evidence of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a Freedom of Information request.
'Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
'The head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.'
Bob Ward, a climate expert at the London School of Economics and Political Science, demanded an independent inquiry.
'From what I've seen of the emails, there's not been any new questions raised about the way papers have been put together, but there should be an re-examination of the emails,' he said.
The emails - which appeared last week on a Russian website - appear to have been stolen from a university computer server.
Enlarge
Yesterday, Professor Jones refused to quit and denied that researchers had altered evidence to bolster the case for man-made climate change.
He added: 'We absolutely stand by the science we produce here at the University of East Anglia and it has been peer reviewed and published.
'Some of the emails probably had poorly chosen words and were sent in the heat of the moment, when I was frustrated. I do regret sending some of them. We've not deleted any emails or data here at CRU.
'I would never manipulate the data one bit - I would categorically deny that.' The university is to conduct an independent review of data security and on its response to 60 freedom of information requests over a short period.
● At least half the 36 UK officials and ministers travelling to the climate change talks in Copenhagen are going by air rather than by rail.
The Liberal Democrats said the arrangements showed up Labour's hypocrisy on green issues.
The Government said officials had meetings that limited their travel options next month.

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ZermattGT · 25-11-09, 11:37 AM

This is a tough issue.
Man aside, we are slowly moving towards a warming cycle on the earth.
These warming cycles are natural byproducts of the earth's "engine".
The amount of measurable solid carbon put into the atmosphere by a volanic erruption
is 100's of times the amount a nations cars put out in a years time.
The earth has always had pretty good filters for this process.
Massive plant life and oceanic organisms.
We're cutting them down and poisoning them fast.
Stop cutting trees.....doesn't sell cars.
Stop poisoning the oceans....doesn't sell .......cars.
Never mind the fact that the new manufacture of a hybrid auto leaves it's own footprint.
Certainly if the earth's filters are becomming compromised we should urge all men to make better decisions for the environment.

No one wants to talk about the effect of a million "gone by" batteries from the aging Hybrids.
It's hard to safely throw away the AA batteries from my TV remote.
NiCad is better than CO2?

The only good reason for Hybrids and the like, if you really do need a new car, is they can decrease our dependence on imported oil.

Technology is good. Advancement in methods of transportation is good.

Just don't pimp us with polar bears to sell Toyota Prius'

China's unregulated coal fired power plants, half a dozen built in the past few years concern me far more.

Please don't preach your particular brand of ECO faith to me using falsified scripture.

20-11-09, 03:47 PM	#4
Puglife ==>PUGSPORT!<== Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Leyland Posts: 1,544	Whats ironic is that its gone on for so long and will continue to.... its nothing more than extreme blinkering of public to make it into a cash cow... A paper came out in 2005 showing signs of forrests beneath the ice in antarctica, which shows that the world before the ice age was very different and Global Warming is in fact a natural process and part of "the circle of life"... As a side note how can CO2 be bad when tree's and plants need it to make oxygen which in turn we need???? Planting more trees would seem logical instead of taxing people to drive 5miles less each time.... People want to feel safe, tax them and state it will help the enviroment and save lives and the future of humanity.... Sea levels are rising by natural processes, sadly you have to deal with it. Interesting fact from a recent speech, if all the 4x4 and SUV's in the world were taken off the road and not replaced, it would cut the CO2 content in the world by 0.95%..... __________________ 1986 UR Quattro - (1982) Lombard RAC Group 4 recreation - #24 H.Demuth/J.Daniels 1981 VW mk1 golf GTi - now 5cylinder and RWD.

20-11-09, 06:57 PM	#6
styler Moderator Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Donegal, Ireland Posts: 3,443	EVERYTHING IS LIES.... global warming, religion.girls dont watch porn... ALL LIES... ha ha .. saw 2012 lastnite... hollywood rubbish... passed the nite though.. __________________ CRASH VALLEY CUSTOMS get 'er done...

25-11-09, 01:12 AM	#9
amanda quattro hussie!! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: doin' it on all fours!! Posts: 5,993	Ohhh even better Scientist in climate change 'cover-up' storm told to quit By David Derbyshire Last updated at 12:02 AM on 25th November 2009 Comments (0) Add to My Stories Pressure: Professor Phil Jones The scientist at the heart of the climate change scandal was under growing pressure to quit last night. George Monbiot, a leading environmentalist, said Phil Jones should resign from the Climatic Research Unit over leaked emails that appear to show researchers suppressed scientific data. More emails came to light yesterday, including one in which an American climatologist admitted it was a travesty that scientists could not explain a lack of global warming in recent years. In another note, UK researchers dismissed the work of scientists challenging global warming as 'crap'. Another appeared to call for pressure on the BBC after a reporter suggested that evidence for rising temperatures since 2001 was thin. In one of the most damning messages, Professor Jones appeared to respond to the death of a climate sceptic with the words 'in an odd way this is cheering news!'. The leak has been a huge embarrassment to the climate unit at the University of East Anglia, which is a global leader in its field. Although there is no hint of evidence that climate change is not real, the emails appear to show researchers manipulating raw data and discussing how to dodge Freedom of Information requests. Yesterday, Mr Monbiot, who writes on green issues, said the emails could scarcely be more damaging. More...'I won't let the b*****s out until they've done a deal': Climate change envoy John Prescott reveals unusual approach to solving global warming Global warming could lead to increased flooding and rising food prices in UK, claim leading scientists 'I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I'm dismayed and deeply shaken,' he said. 'There are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad. 'There appears to be evidence of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a Freedom of Information request. 'Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. 'The head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.' Bob Ward, a climate expert at the London School of Economics and Political Science, demanded an independent inquiry. 'From what I've seen of the emails, there's not been any new questions raised about the way papers have been put together, but there should be an re-examination of the emails,' he said. The emails - which appeared last week on a Russian website - appear to have been stolen from a university computer server. Enlarge Yesterday, Professor Jones refused to quit and denied that researchers had altered evidence to bolster the case for man-made climate change. He added: 'We absolutely stand by the science we produce here at the University of East Anglia and it has been peer reviewed and published. 'Some of the emails probably had poorly chosen words and were sent in the heat of the moment, when I was frustrated. I do regret sending some of them. We've not deleted any emails or data here at CRU. 'I would never manipulate the data one bit - I would categorically deny that.' The university is to conduct an independent review of data security and on its response to 60 freedom of information requests over a short period. ● At least half the 36 UK officials and ministers travelling to the climate change talks in Copenhagen are going by air rather than by rail. The Liberal Democrats said the arrangements showed up Labour's hypocrisy on green issues. The Government said officials had meetings that limited their travel options next month. Explore more:Places: Copenhagen, United Kingdom Organisations: London School of Economics Print this article Read later Email to a friend Share this article: Digg it Del.icio.us Reddit Newsvine Nowpublic StumbleUpon Facebook MySpace Fark Add your comments Comments (0)No comments have so far been submitted. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, or debate this issue live on our message boards. Add your comment Name: Town & Country: Your name and location will appear next to your comment.Your comments:You have 1000 characters left. We welcome your opinions. This is a public forum. Libellous and abusive comments are not allowed. Please read our House Rules. I agree to the House Rules Remember me - this will save you __________________ Mystic blue m3 ghay hairdresser mobile 4 sheds 1 shopping trolley Gti RS6 ...my baby

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20-11-09, 01:42 PM	#3
Ringmaster Senior Member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,335	Bet we don't hear anything of it on the general news. There is just too much money to be made out of global warming.

25-11-09, 11:37 AM	#10
ZermattGT Quad Lamp Commando Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Massachusetts, U.S.A. Posts: 4,299	This is a tough issue. Man aside, we are slowly moving towards a warming cycle on the earth. These warming cycles are natural byproducts of the earth's "engine". The amount of measurable solid carbon put into the atmosphere by a volanic erruption is 100's of times the amount a nations cars put out in a years time. The earth has always had pretty good filters for this process. Massive plant life and oceanic organisms. We're cutting them down and poisoning them fast. Stop cutting trees.....doesn't sell cars. Stop poisoning the oceans....doesn't sell .......cars. Never mind the fact that the new manufacture of a hybrid auto leaves it's own footprint. Certainly if the earth's filters are becomming compromised we should urge all men to make better decisions for the environment. No one wants to talk about the effect of a million "gone by" batteries from the aging Hybrids. It's hard to safely throw away the AA batteries from my TV remote. NiCad is better than CO2? The only good reason for Hybrids and the like, if you really do need a new car, is they can decrease our dependence on imported oil. Technology is good. Advancement in methods of transportation is good. Just don't pimp us with polar bears to sell Toyota Prius' China's unregulated coal fired power plants, half a dozen built in the past few years concern me far more. Please don't preach your particular brand of ECO faith to me using falsified scripture.