Audi 80 B3 boot open when key lost

JMLAudi · 08-04-16, 05:04 PM

Hi
I hoping someone can advise me
I lost key for the boot
The central locking pump not working

How does one get in

Thankyou

missfire · 08-04-16, 05:21 PM

Find the right pipe and suck it!(somehow) Presuming the pump isn't in the boot.. Never done it but that's what I'd try before breaking anything.

leggy · 08-04-16, 05:27 PM

You should be able to open the drivers door independently with key JMLAudi..
then open all other doors via pully-up thingies.

For boot, well if you can get in and fold the rear seats down, there should be a boot release lever behind the carpet; not sure where it is on B3 but for B4 it's tucked up high over the wheel arch area on OSR side. The CL pump is on the same side but nearer to the bumper.

Not sure how you'd open the fuel filler door mind, or how to get in if you've lost all keys.

Mellis46 · 08-04-16, 06:12 PM

If only it were as simple as folding the rear seats, on the B3 saloon its a fixed backrest with a metal bulkhead behind and the ruddy fuel tank behind that...!!

Do you have any other keys to try? If you are really lucky with some wiggling one may work the lock. Guessing the lock was left in the vertical position so it doesnt respond to the central locking? It may be a case of sacrificing the lamp with the lock in and working the rods manually. Or a locksmith.

You can see into the boot if you remove the back seat backrest, to the left and right there are apertures, it would be extremely fiddly trying to work a rod or something through those holes across to the back of the lock, especially if you have the covers / carpet panel over the rear of the lamps. Could be possible if you have ninja skills maybe.

In the past i have knocked a bung out of the floor and managed to retrieve a key that was actually inside the boot, it was a fwd car without a boot carpet fortunately, not much help to you. Cant think of any way to do it bar the obvious...

leggy · 08-04-16, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mellis46

If only it were as simple as folding the rear seats, on the B3 saloon its a fixed backrest with a metal bulkhead behind and the ruddy fuel tank behind that...

So glad I bought a B4 then Mellis46...
doesn't help poor John of course, ummmm, what about tennis ball method to open the boot lock?, or does the CL Pump in B3 not work on air?

Mellis46 · 08-04-16, 06:24 PM

It works with a pull/push of air yes, but given the question I am assuming the lock has been left in the vertical position where it doesnt respond to the central locking meaning the key is required - if it was horizontal it would open / lock with the doors and there wouldnt be an issue...

Tennis Ball Method - havent heard that in years, worked on 80s Fords if you believe urban legend??!

JMLAudi · 08-04-16, 06:24 PM

Hi all
Thankyou for quick replies

Car in question, is my projects car
No power in car, as in complete wiring
Boot has different key to others as its a replacement lock

Lost key and don't know what I done with it

I got about 20 old keys tried but not the right one

Rear seats don't fold down , unfortunately on the B3

Boot does not have a ski hatch to try to get to linkages

Tried suction with vac pump as well as blowing in pipe
But it's not working

I got a mint Audi 90 Center panel on boot lid, don't fancy breaking that

I at my wits end, as I got spares in boot

Cheers
John

Mellis46 · 08-04-16, 06:30 PM

Sh*t. Could try going in through the indicator lens? Youd be working blind and need skinny arms...

What about a mobile locksmith? They would "feel" the inside of the lock and cut u a key

JMLAudi · 08-04-16, 06:32 PM

Hi
Looks like I going to have to go that route

Cheers
John

leggy · 08-04-16, 06:33 PM

Thanks for reply Mellis46...
jeez, Audi never make things easy to sort out on their cars do they?

[EDIT] have no idea if tennis ball method would work or not (someone told me about it when I was having problems with my CL pump), was just putting the suggestion forward that's all cuz I'm sure John would appreciate any help/suggestions that he can get right now.

I really don't know what else to suggest John...
but I do feel for you, really I do! Hope you can get it sorted soon buddy.

08-04-16, 06:12 PM	#4
Mellis46 Aero Advocate Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,448	If only it were as simple as folding the rear seats, on the B3 saloon its a fixed backrest with a metal bulkhead behind and the ruddy fuel tank behind that...!! Do you have any other keys to try? If you are really lucky with some wiggling one may work the lock. Guessing the lock was left in the vertical position so it doesnt respond to the central locking? It may be a case of sacrificing the lamp with the lock in and working the rods manually. Or a locksmith. You can see into the boot if you remove the back seat backrest, to the left and right there are apertures, it would be extremely fiddly trying to work a rod or something through those holes across to the back of the lock, especially if you have the covers / carpet panel over the rear of the lamps. Could be possible if you have ninja skills maybe. In the past i have knocked a bung out of the floor and managed to retrieve a key that was actually inside the boot, it was a fwd car without a boot carpet fortunately, not much help to you. Cant think of any way to do it bar the obvious... Last edited by Mellis46; 08-04-16 at 06:16 PM.

08-04-16, 06:24 PM	#6
Mellis46 Aero Advocate Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,448	It works with a pull/push of air yes, but given the question I am assuming the lock has been left in the vertical position where it doesnt respond to the central locking meaning the key is required - if it was horizontal it would open / lock with the doors and there wouldnt be an issue... Tennis Ball Method - havent heard that in years, worked on 80s Fords if you believe urban legend??! Last edited by Mellis46; 08-04-16 at 06:26 PM.

08-04-16, 06:33 PM	#10
leggy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,650	Thanks for reply Mellis46... jeez, Audi never make things easy to sort out on their cars do they? [EDIT] have no idea if tennis ball method would work or not (someone told me about it when I was having problems with my CL pump), was just putting the suggestion forward that's all cuz I'm sure John would appreciate any help/suggestions that he can get right now. I really don't know what else to suggest John... but I do feel for you, really I do! Hope you can get it sorted soon buddy. Last edited by leggy; 08-04-16 at 06:46 PM.

08-04-16, 05:21 PM	#2
missfire making wooden things Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: cow land Posts: 8,156	Find the right pipe and suck it!(somehow) Presuming the pump isn't in the boot.. Never done it but that's what I'd try before breaking anything.

08-04-16, 05:27 PM	#3
leggy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,650	You should be able to open the drivers door independently with key JMLAudi.. then open all other doors via pully-up thingies. For boot, well if you can get in and fold the rear seats down, there should be a boot release lever behind the carpet; not sure where it is on B3 but for B4 it's tucked up high over the wheel arch area on OSR side. The CL pump is on the same side but nearer to the bumper. Not sure how you'd open the fuel filler door mind, or how to get in if you've lost all keys.

08-04-16, 06:24 PM	#7
JMLAudi Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Knaresborough/Shipley Posts: 951	Hi all Thankyou for quick replies Car in question, is my projects car No power in car, as in complete wiring Boot has different key to others as its a replacement lock Lost key and don't know what I done with it I got about 20 old keys tried but not the right one Rear seats don't fold down , unfortunately on the B3 Boot does not have a ski hatch to try to get to linkages Tried suction with vac pump as well as blowing in pipe But it's not working I got a mint Audi 90 Center panel on boot lid, don't fancy breaking that I at my wits end, as I got spares in boot Cheers John

08-04-16, 06:30 PM	#8
Mellis46 Aero Advocate Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,448	Sh*t. Could try going in through the indicator lens? Youd be working blind and need skinny arms... What about a mobile locksmith? They would "feel" the inside of the lock and cut u a key

08-04-16, 06:32 PM	#9
JMLAudi Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Knaresborough/Shipley Posts: 951	Hi Looks like I going to have to go that route Cheers John