Electric Window Nightmare!!

Soldierblue · 11-04-11, 06:41 PM

Hello fellas,

I have a problem I was hoping someone could help me with. My electric windows don't work. Now, this wasn't too bad during the winter months, however, now summer is upon us it is akin to sitting in a sauna!!!

I have (eventually) found the second location for relays / fuses etc (underneath the dashboard). However, as it's been altered (an immobiliser and alarm etc) the whole things is a cluster of wires and a bit of a nightmare.

Three of us have been looking, but can't work out what to do next.

We have found three relays with the following numbers on - 363, 21 and 30. There is also a 12amp fuse (numbered 443937105C) and one 20amp fuse (numbered 443937105).

The Haynes manual I was advised to purchase doesn't really help as it's not the exact model (closest to it) and as the wiring is in a bit of a confused mess, we can't work out where to go.

Any suggestions would be fantastic as it's driving me up the wall!

Thanks in advance.

Mark

Couperman · 11-04-11, 06:47 PM

Hi Mark, exactly what car do you have? Do you have power at the switches?

Soldierblue · 11-04-11, 06:53 PM

Hello mate,

Sorry should have said that - I have a 1995 N reg Audi Coupe. The switches were a bit iffy, but always kicked in. Now there's no power to the switches at all.

The electric mirrors on the same console still work though if that narrows it down.

ian20v · 11-04-11, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldierblue

Hello mate,

Sorry should have said that - I have a 1995 N reg Audi Coupe. The switches were a bit iffy, but always kicked in. Now there's no power to the switches at all.

The electric mirrors on the same console still work though if that narrows it down.

could be motor has packed in,did on a 16v coupe i once owned,got a whole window mech for £20 from audibits2,easy to fit

Soldierblue · 11-04-11, 07:02 PM

Is that easier than trying to work through the relays?

An appropriate diagram of the wiring would be useful. I'm guessing that if I changed the motor (this shows my ineptness!) and the relays were still knackered, it wouldn't work?!

I was just thinking about buying a load of new relays and replacing them all. But a starter for 10 regarding which relay it is would be V helpful!

ian20v · 11-04-11, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldierblue

Is that easier than trying to work through the relays?

An appropriate diagram of the wiring would be useful. I'm guessing that if I changed the motor (this shows my ineptness!) and the relays were still knackered, it wouldn't work?!

I was just thinking about buying a load of new relays and replacing them all. But a starter for 10 regarding which relay it is would be V helpful!

you could put a meter across the motor to test it,or wire it up to a battery see if it moves ,that way you'll know

,not sure about which relay it is,someone on here will know.

Couperman · 11-04-11, 07:44 PM

Hi Mark, I have a M plate 1995 model year 2.6e V6 Coupe. From what I can make out of my manual (Haynes 1491, which doesn't cover later than 1990) the relay board under the passenger side of the dashboard should have 18 relay locations. These are numbered from left to right. The middle row is Numbers 1 to 6, bottom row 7 to 12 and top row 13 to 18. Numbers 9 and 12 are circuit breakers for electric windows and Numbers 15 and 16 are the relays for the electric windows. Does this help?
BTW where are you located?

Ben · 11-04-11, 07:51 PM

Wiring diagram for an 80 but it's similar enough:

http://www.audi-club.ru/forum/attach...0&d=1157980115

SteveCat · 11-04-11, 08:09 PM

Hey glad you guys (Rod and Ben) put that info up! Nice one!

Currently have an inactive drivers side elec window so will help with mine too.Thanks

Glad you said passenger side Rod.Took some advice and looked under drivers side at weekend.Only to see 3 relays which were naff all to do with it!

!!

Couperman · 11-04-11, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveCat

Hey glad you guys (Rod and Ben) put that info up! Nice one!

Currently have an inactive drivers side elec window so will help with mine too.Thanks

Glad you said passenger side Rod.Took some advice and looked under drivers side at weekend.Only to see 3 relays which were naff all to do with it!

!!

Sorry Steve/Mark, should have said Drivers side

Do you have any lights on the switches? or does the motor whirr when the switch is pressed. If you remove the door card and unplug the window motor cable (2 pin connector) you should be able to connect it directly to a battery or charger to see if it's the motor or wiring which is the problem.

11-04-11, 06:47 PM	#2
Couperman Smut Meister Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newark-on-Trent Posts: 1,418	Hi Mark, exactly what car do you have? Do you have power at the switches? __________________ Rod Inwood - Member 1467 1994 C4 4a 100 sport 2.6 V6, Ruby Red Pearl, 98,000 miles Previously owned :- 1988 B3 Coupe 2.3E 5 Cyl, Panther Black Metallic 1990 C4 4a 100 Saloon 2.0 ltr, Tornado Red 1994 B4 Coupe 2.6E V6, Lime Pastel 'Gelbus', 231,000 miles (Sadly written off 04/07/2015) 1994 B4 Avant 2.6E V6, Indigo Blue, 167,000 miles.

11-04-11, 07:44 PM	#7
Couperman Smut Meister Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newark-on-Trent Posts: 1,418	Hi Mark, I have a M plate 1995 model year 2.6e V6 Coupe. From what I can make out of my manual (Haynes 1491, which doesn't cover later than 1990) the relay board under the passenger side of the dashboard should have 18 relay locations. These are numbered from left to right. The middle row is Numbers 1 to 6, bottom row 7 to 12 and top row 13 to 18. Numbers 9 and 12 are circuit breakers for electric windows and Numbers 15 and 16 are the relays for the electric windows. Does this help? BTW where are you located? __________________ Rod Inwood - Member 1467 1994 C4 4a 100 sport 2.6 V6, Ruby Red Pearl, 98,000 miles Previously owned :- 1988 B3 Coupe 2.3E 5 Cyl, Panther Black Metallic 1990 C4 4a 100 Saloon 2.0 ltr, Tornado Red 1994 B4 Coupe 2.6E V6, Lime Pastel 'Gelbus', 231,000 miles (Sadly written off 04/07/2015) 1994 B4 Avant 2.6E V6, Indigo Blue, 167,000 miles.

11-04-11, 07:51 PM	#8
Ben 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stockport Posts: 2,348	Wiring diagram for an 80 but it's similar enough: http://www.audi-club.ru/forum/attach...0&d=1157980115 __________________ 1992 80 quattro 20vt

11-04-11, 08:09 PM	#9
SteveCat 4 ring whore! Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,523	. Hey glad you guys (Rod and Ben) put that info up! Nice one! Currently have an inactive drivers side elec window so will help with mine too.Thanks Glad you said passenger side Rod.Took some advice and looked under drivers side at weekend.Only to see 3 relays which were naff all to do with it!!! __________________ Mercedes E220 Sportline Coupe

11-04-11, 06:53 PM	#3
Soldierblue Grown up member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 20	Hello mate, Sorry should have said that - I have a 1995 N reg Audi Coupe. The switches were a bit iffy, but always kicked in. Now there's no power to the switches at all. The electric mirrors on the same console still work though if that narrows it down.

11-04-11, 07:02 PM	#5
Soldierblue Grown up member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 20	Is that easier than trying to work through the relays? An appropriate diagram of the wiring would be useful. I'm guessing that if I changed the motor (this shows my ineptness!) and the relays were still knackered, it wouldn't work?! I was just thinking about buying a load of new relays and replacing them all. But a starter for 10 regarding which relay it is would be V helpful!