Help! Cambelt failure!

Lankytim · 13-07-08, 08:36 AM

Ok, tensioner failure, but same result.

Is the 4 cyl "golf" engine as fitted to my audi 100 an interference engine or will it bend its valves if the belt falls off?

Help help HELP!

pimpdriver · 13-07-08, 08:42 AM

1.8 is interference.

1.6 isn't.

I have the 1.6 fitted to my 80CL.
Should be easy enough to find a replacement.

Lankytim · 13-07-08, 08:44 AM

Thought so.......

Time to find a nice 2 litre from a passat or a golf GTI or something. Theres loads of cheapos on ebay.

I could replace the head I guess...

pimpdriver · 13-07-08, 09:16 AM

Just get a head. If it's a cheapo daily driver car, keep spend minimum. You could fit a Golf GTI Mk2 head and block up the injector holes with pennies, to get slightly better performance.

2 litres from Passat or Golfs are usually "tall block" engines, slightly taller so exhausts don't align properly.

3A from Audi 80 Sport (G/H/J reg) is same physical dimensions as your 1.8.

http://clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=90673

Steve

Lankytim · 13-07-08, 09:41 AM

Is there no point even trying a 2l golf engine if its a "tall block" unit? I want to take the line of minimum effort but more power would be a real bonus!

pimpdriver · 13-07-08, 09:44 AM

read the CLubgti link and decide from there.

It is a hell of a resource.

2 litre Golf engines are usually Mk3 golfs.

Audi 80 3A is the one you want for ease of install if you're sticking with carb power.

Lankytim · 13-07-08, 10:28 AM

Ive read the link but im getting stuck with all the engine codes and different distributors. Its confusing for a VAG novice like me!

What year of Audi 80 has the appropriate engine? Theres one in my local breakers, its an injection mind...

Or theres this unit, 2litre from an Audi 80..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/audi-80-engine...3286.m14.l1318

pimpdriver · 13-07-08, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpdriver

Just get a head. If it's a cheapo daily driver car, keep spend minimum. You could fit a Golf GTI Mk2 head and block up the injector holes with pennies, to get slightly better performance.

3A from Audi 80 Sport (G/H/J reg) is same physical dimensions as your 1.8.

Steve

Top tip. Read the post above.

3A from a Series 3 80 G/H/J reg.

Like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-AUDI-80-E...3286.m14.l1318

or this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-AUDI-80-S...3286.m14.l1318
BUT NOT THIS:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-80-Spares...3286.m14.l1318

Block up the injector holes with pennies.....

Lankytim · 13-07-08, 11:27 AM

Sorry, I didnt read the bit you posted regarding the years! Ive been searching the web for engines and info and getting a bit confused by all the different units available, im in a bit of a panic TBH, I dont my Audi to die! Just to clarify, the units from the cars you posted links to are direct swaps? (give or take the odd injector that needs plugging)

Many thanks for your advice and being patient!

pimpdriver · 13-07-08, 03:34 PM

no worries. I think they are direct swaps. That's what I will be looking for anyway when I upgrade my 1.6 80CL to something more useful

13-07-08, 08:44 AM	#3
Lankytim Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 513	Thought so....... Time to find a nice 2 litre from a passat or a golf GTI or something. Theres loads of cheapos on ebay. I could replace the head I guess... __________________ 1979 Allegro 1500 special (nearly back on the road after resto!) 1993 Audi Coupe 2.6 (non runner at the moment) 1996 Citroen XM 2.5 TD- Veg oil burner. 2004 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD ELX. "Eagles may fly high, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

13-07-08, 09:41 AM	#5
Lankytim Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 513	Is there no point even trying a 2l golf engine if its a "tall block" unit? I want to take the line of minimum effort but more power would be a real bonus! __________________ 1979 Allegro 1500 special (nearly back on the road after resto!) 1993 Audi Coupe 2.6 (non runner at the moment) 1996 Citroen XM 2.5 TD- Veg oil burner. 2004 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD ELX. "Eagles may fly high, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

13-07-08, 10:28 AM	#7
Lankytim Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 513	Ive read the link but im getting stuck with all the engine codes and different distributors. Its confusing for a VAG novice like me! What year of Audi 80 has the appropriate engine? Theres one in my local breakers, its an injection mind... Or theres this unit, 2litre from an Audi 80.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/audi-80-engine...3286.m14.l1318 __________________ 1979 Allegro 1500 special (nearly back on the road after resto!) 1993 Audi Coupe 2.6 (non runner at the moment) 1996 Citroen XM 2.5 TD- Veg oil burner. 2004 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD ELX. "Eagles may fly high, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

13-07-08, 11:27 AM	#9
Lankytim Grown up member Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 513	Sorry, I didnt read the bit you posted regarding the years! Ive been searching the web for engines and info and getting a bit confused by all the different units available, im in a bit of a panic TBH, I dont my Audi to die! Just to clarify, the units from the cars you posted links to are direct swaps? (give or take the odd injector that needs plugging) Many thanks for your advice and being patient! __________________ 1979 Allegro 1500 special (nearly back on the road after resto!) 1993 Audi Coupe 2.6 (non runner at the moment) 1996 Citroen XM 2.5 TD- Veg oil burner. 2004 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD ELX. "Eagles may fly high, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

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13-07-08, 08:42 AM	#2
pimpdriver Devon Pastie Muncher Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Calne Wiltshire Posts: 7,530	1.8 is interference. 1.6 isn't. I have the 1.6 fitted to my 80CL. Should be easy enough to find a replacement.

13-07-08, 09:16 AM	#4
pimpdriver Devon Pastie Muncher Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Calne Wiltshire Posts: 7,530	Just get a head. If it's a cheapo daily driver car, keep spend minimum. You could fit a Golf GTI Mk2 head and block up the injector holes with pennies, to get slightly better performance. 2 litres from Passat or Golfs are usually "tall block" engines, slightly taller so exhausts don't align properly. 3A from Audi 80 Sport (G/H/J reg) is same physical dimensions as your 1.8. http://clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=90673 Steve

13-07-08, 09:44 AM	#6
pimpdriver Devon Pastie Muncher Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Calne Wiltshire Posts: 7,530	read the CLubgti link and decide from there. It is a hell of a resource. 2 litre Golf engines are usually Mk3 golfs. Audi 80 3A is the one you want for ease of install if you're sticking with carb power.

13-07-08, 03:34 PM	#10
pimpdriver Devon Pastie Muncher Classic Audi Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Calne Wiltshire Posts: 7,530	no worries. I think they are direct swaps. That's what I will be looking for anyway when I upgrade my 1.6 80CL to something more useful