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1-So you would happily sit in an underground carriage full of covid + passengers?
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I think my point is that this remote hypothetical example is not the situation we actually face, and health policies should relate to the world as it is.
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What value do you place on a 90 year old’s life? And your children, and other’s children? And your own life?
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I may not have made myself clear. I place a very high value on life. Sadly sometimes as a society we have to balance one need against another. For example, the lives saved from Covid by NHS staff isolating versus the lives lost due to delayed cancer treatment etc. We have a responsibility to measure all costs...not just from Covid...and not just in terms of years lived, but the quality of life.
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If I am covid +, do you agree that I should reduce the likelihood of transmission by wearing a standard mask
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IF you know you have Covid+ I want you to stay indoors. Keep away, a standard mask will make little if any difference. Otherwise, as Covid will always be with us...if you have no reason to think you are Covid+ please decide for yourself whether you want to wear a mask just in case. It is the compulsory mandates for relatively ineffective measures and small risks of mortality that I object to. We cannot live like this forever.
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4) are you happy to be allowed to die now if the cost of saving your life is more than I want to spend?
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This an interesting hypothetical case. As a society there are limits to the value of life. We do not spend all we have giving treatments in all sorts of specific cases, because the money is better spent on the common welfare. I would not expect heaven and earth to be moved so that my wretched life be extended. And there are values we as a society have in the past been willing to die for. So to an extent the answer to your question is yes, I accept that I am mortal, and my right to treatments paid for by others has limits. I do not expect the entire general population to limit their lives JUST IN CASE I may live a year a few years longer.
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Why bother vaccinating the elderly who are going to die of something soon anyway? What benefit do they bring to me specifically, or society generally?...Surely a cost benefit analysis would require them to die?
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I might not have made myself clear again. I entirely support vaccination for any adult able to give free and informed consent. I think they work (mostly in reducing symptoms), and are an extremely cost-effective measure. As I say, it is compulsion/coercion I object to on ethical grounds.
I do not think closing schools, lockdowns, and a variety of other measures are cost effective at present. They are a cure worse that the disease. Their cost versus effectiveness is too great IMHO.
Please forgive me if I don't reply too...its a time thing.