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Old 27-12-21, 10:45 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by SorenR View Post

The 3 simple rules are:

Keep your distance (6 feet)
Wash your hands often (water & soap or alchohol)
Wear a mask in public (if a brain surgeon can wear a mask for 32 hours, so can you. They are not superhumans.)

And...

Get a test if someone you visited show symtoms.
Get vaccinated!
This is where problems begin when challenging whats been mandated and the reasons why.

Rule 1, the 6 foot rule.
Social distancing guidelines are based on scientific studies from over 100 years ago not exactly making them current.
The six-foot rule was originally proposed in 1897 by Carl Flügge, a German bacteriologist who studied the movement patterns of fluid droplets expelled from the mouth when speaking, coughing, or sneezing.
In his research, he found that visible fluid droplets containing pathogens travel about six feet.

In the 1940’s, there was a study of a bacterium called haemolytic streptococci that confirmed Flügge’s original findings which shows that most bacteria-containing droplets stay close to their source.
It also finds that a minority (10%) of people produce droplets that can travel as far as 9.5 feet away.

The belief that six feet is a safe distance is shown in recent studies to prove this belief wrong.
A recent review of 10 studies on droplet emissions showed that in eight of the 10 studies respiratory droplets can travel farther than six feet.
Small droplets from a sneeze indoors for example can travel up to 8 metres.
More important than distance is exposure time.

https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance...iaa189/5820886

Not only that but different droplet sizes also carry pathogens, with the smaller sizes being present in the air for much longer than the immediate larger particle fallout.

That brings us onto the mental disorders of mask silliness.
Medical masks are utlised in a surgical setting in order to prevent physical droplets from falling into the surgical field, ie into a patient on the table.
That they do.
What they dont do is prevent bi directional transmission of pathogens that are smaller than the mesh size of the mask of which there are many.
The average size of a cv19 virus is iirc around 1 micron whith the smallest mesh size of the best consumer grade or medical mask being 80 microns.
Particle sizes under 80 microns are not trapped and simply flow out or in through the mesh.
There is a static effect where some of the particulates get pulled out of suspension and entrained into the mask fibres however real world observations from places such as scotland and wales that have a continued mandate to wear them compared to england didnt dont show a definitive drop in infections due to wearing them, in fact in England infections lowered, the mask effect isnt statistically significant and to my mind is utterly pointless and simply a comfort blanket and a symbol of compliance.

Also against the ideology of masks is the issue of saturation.
When you wear a mask, the fabric becomes moist due to respiration.
The pathogens then become evaporated (in moisture droplets) back into the airstream due to the heat of your breath, ready to be rebreathed by all and sundry.
All that effectively happened for those pathogens that were stopped was a delay in transmission.
Then youve got the fact that the kinds of masks being sold are fabric and have pretty much zero effect due to even larger mesh sizes than a surgical mask and incorrect fitment or infrequent replacement and more frequent readjustments and its a policy of placebo than real effect.
If you look on ANY mask, theres a disclaimer, "Does not protect against Covid19 This item is not personal pretective equipment".
Im reminded of a paint sprayer using a dust mask to paint a car with isocyantes.
Particle sizes are trapped, the toxic vapour is not.

The wearing of masks other than an air fed type with full face seal and proper biological air filtration is obviously pointless, in my opinion.

People are wearing these silly things to feel safe rather than BEING safe which is a dangerous thing for any future pandemic.

Washing your hands is fine and is a recognized part of hygeine.
I dont subscribe to testing for a disease that has a 99.7% survival rate.
I also dont subscribe to being a gunea pig for a so called vaccine that is only approved for emergency use, that is still in testing until 2023, whose manufacturers are exempted for liabilty for injuries and who have applied to have all their data supressed for 75 years.
So for a vaccine that still allows infection, development of and transmission of a disease with breakthrough isnt instilling much in the way of confidence here.

My current infection has been beaten in just 3 days with no issues, not really worth closing down the world for or spiralling into a panic over.
Suppose Ill have to state, Im not anti vaccine, Ive had all my previous stuff Im just anti this one, its all been rushed and just has too many issues to be placing my trust in it.

Take care all.
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