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Vince70 04-08-13 09:39 PM

Power steering fluid g002000
 
I wonder if someone can give me some advice, I'm just going drag my 1995 Audi A4 out the garage and its been sitting for 6 months and noticed that the power steering fluid was on the minimum and ordered some more from GSF.

The problem being when it arrived I had been sent the wrong fluid so I didn't use it luckily before it was too late.

I see I can buy it through amazon as comma CHF 11 and that would be easier as its just a press of a couple of buttons on the computer.


Both my A4 and My 1993 80 Cabriolet need a slight top up and both cars need green mineral fluid to G002000 spec and I'm not sure but I think CHF 11s is to that spec.

Could someone with a bit of knowledge tell me if this is the stuff as I don't want to damage the power steering racks on both cars

Also being that I've only got the original jack which comes with the car and I have quite a steep drive I don't really want to get under the car to drain the system.

I was thinking about putting a turkey baster in the power steering reservoir and draining a bit out and adding the new stuff.

Has anyone tried this and is it a good idea.
regards

Error404 04-08-13 10:29 PM

Best bet is just go to the dealer and buy some genuine fluid, its not expensive and they carry it on the shelf.
The only other compatible fluid I know of is the Febi equivalent that GSF sell.

If you're not sure how old or what the fluid is in the system already, I recommend a full drain and flush. the wrong fluid is the most common cause of leaks and failure in the Audi hydraulic systems - you will be surprised how much ugly looking shit comes out :)

Ben 04-08-13 10:52 PM

I use the Comma CHF 11, it conforms to the specifications and it's available in my local car spares shop.

I don't know about the turkey baster idea though, you can drain just the fluid reservoir by undoing the pipe off it, no need to go underneath.

missfire 04-08-13 11:41 PM

I bought a load of OE stuff on ebay last night, g004000, but think it can be used if the system is flushed?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_od...04000&_sacat=0

Vince70 05-08-13 05:51 AM

Thanks for the replies,
I've just bought the comma stuff I didn't think it was a bad price in the end as it was only around £8 off amazon with delivery.

The same stuff from Halfords was £15 and when I looked at the spec sheet the Halfords one is made by comma.

I will just undo the pipe to drain the reservoir I see it has some kind of tamper proof clip on the bottom of it, is there a way of removing the clip without breaking anything as I'm quite heavy handed at times and knowing my luck I may break something.

msh 05-08-13 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 320169)
Best bet is just go to the dealer and buy some genuine fluid, its not expensive and they carry it on the shelf.
The only other compatible fluid I know of is the Febi equivalent that GSF sell.

If you're not sure how old or what the fluid is in the system already, I recommend a full drain and flush. the wrong fluid is the most common cause of leaks and failure in the Audi hydraulic systems - you will be surprised how much ugly looking shit comes out :)

Fully agree about genuine stuff. Easiest thing to buy as volkswagen dealership should be in any town. Also agree about wrong fluid - someone has filled red synthetic oil in my PAS system in the past - well, it works, but some time ago when I was repairing something in winter @ -15c, after starting and instant maneuvering [I had to drive car out of the garage, turn around and drive in garage other way - all that without anything in cooling system] found out a little bit of PAS fluid on engine block. Sometime in future I'll change to green finally.

Ben 05-08-13 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince70 (Post 320183)
I will just undo the pipe to drain the reservoir I see it has some kind of tamper proof clip on the bottom of it, is there a way of removing the clip without breaking anything as I'm quite heavy handed at times and knowing my luck I may break something.

I've not seen a tamper proof clip before, mine have just been a jubilee clip. Once you have drained the reservoir you are only a few steps away from a flush by unbolting the reservoir, you'll find the return pipe on the bottom, undo it and connect a hosepipe to the return pipe into a bucket then run the engine, pump the brakes until hard and turn the steering lock to lock until no more fluid comes out, reconnect everything and fill up, 1 ltr is just enough to fill the system but you'll need a bit more to top up to the level mark. It's self purging so after a few mins of steering, all should be well.

Error404 06-08-13 08:57 AM

I really wouldn't do that, you will run the system dry and in danger of rolling seals and damaging the PAS pump. :)

Connect the return hose to a pipe and into a bucket - plug the return on the reservoir. Then fill up the reservoir and start the engine. Keep filling the reservoir up until the return runs clean. Then turn lock to lock a few times and cycle the brakes (if you have hydro brakes).
Reconnect everything, top up the fluid, start engine, bleed the steering by turning lock to lock a few times. Done :)

By tamper p[roof slip, do you mean an Oetiker clamp like this:
http://www.thmarine.com/userfiles/im...epless-500.jpg

If so they are a one-use clip - you can remove them by inserting a small screwdriver into the "ear" and twisting to open the clamp up. IMHO these are much better than Jubliee clips :)

Ben 06-08-13 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 320325)
I really wouldn't do that, you will run the system dry and in danger of rolling seals and damaging the PAS pump. :)

It's a bit ghetto but for the few seconds it takes to do I doubt any damage will occur due to fluid impregnation on all the surfaces, but yeah, don't do it my way just in case.

There's a walk through with piccies here: http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articl...r/psflush.html

msh 06-08-13 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 320325)
If so they are a one-use clip - you can remove them by inserting a small screwdriver into the "ear" and twisting to open the clamp up. IMHO these are much better than Jubliee clips :)

They aren't one use - provided the one, who installed them in first place used correct tools and did it correctly, and that you removed it also enough correctly, they could be reused for at least once.

But, provided that you don't worry about original appearance, the way to go are these

http://www.anzor.co.nz/exonet/image/...0clip%2025.jpg

I have no wonder why almost any clips in engine compartment of my A90 in past 15 years have been replaced by these. Yep, the PAS oil tank hose clip as well.


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