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Drazic 05-03-08 10:02 AM

Crankshaft Locking Tool - kv 2226
 
Morning Gents,

My mechanic requires the crakshaft locking tool i.e. the one that locks the pulley to undo the 27 mm bolt (280nm) to change the cambelt etc.

Anyone know where I maybe able to source borrow one? The local Audi dealerships have apparently lost theirs!!

Many thanks in advance

Doug

Booty 05-03-08 10:54 AM

Audi do sell them about 25 quid. I hope your man knows his tools cause to undo that bolt with it's 380lb ft of torque it goes with a bloody bang I can tell you. Really need to ensure the locking tool is correctly inplace also as they can slip, then the guy holding the scaffolding bar ( cause that's what you need to undo it ) slips and spends two weeks with concussion. I had the job of sitting on the floor with my feet pushing on the end of the extension bar keeping it on the end of the bolt pulling on the bottom valance for stability. When the bolt went, I could have cried cause I thought the head had sheared. It hadn't but by God what a job..............Don't forget the loctite on the bolt after either.

audivw 05-03-08 11:15 AM

where about are you ............. i have one here

and the correct touqe for the bolt is 350nm on a CQ and 350nm on a UR and if you don't have the other locking tool it's 450nm. :eek:

Drazic 05-03-08 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bootyrallyrep (Post 6611)
Audi do sell them about 25 quid. I hope your man knows his tools cause to undo that bolt with it's 380lb ft of torque it goes with a bloody bang I can tell you. Really need to ensure the locking tool is correctly inplace also as they can slip, then the guy holding the scaffolding bar ( cause that's what you need to undo it ) slips and spends two weeks with concussion. I had the job of sitting on the floor with my feet pushing on the end of the extension bar keeping it on the end of the bolt pulling on the bottom valance for stability. When the bolt went, I could have cried cause I thought the head had sheared. It hadn't but by God what a job..............Don't forget the loctite on the bolt after either.

Thanks - I suspect it may well be worth buying one. With regards to knowing what he''s doing he is mk1 golf/jetta/vag etc specialist....www.mvdevelopments.co.uk SO in other words I bloody hope so!!

Thanks for the advice on the removal and reinstatement - tricks of the trade ey!!

Drazic 05-03-08 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audivw (Post 6612)
where about are you ............. i have one here

and the correct touqe for the bolt is 350nm on a CQ and 350nm on a UR and if you don't have the other locking tool it's 450nm. :eek:


Thanks! I suspect it will probably be worthwhile and more cost effective to buy the tool to give to the garage whenever needed, but thanks nontheless. It all sounds very complicated to me!!

I have an Audi 90 quattro and they advised my mechanic that it was 280nm - have Audi got this wrong then?:eek:

Booty 05-03-08 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audivw (Post 6612)
where about are you ............. i have one here

and the correct touqe for the bolt is 350nm on a CQ and 350nm on a UR and if you don't have the other locking tool it's 450nm. :eek:

I wasn't far off with 380 lb ft was I. Still a bast*rd to do.

Drazic 05-03-08 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bootyrallyrep (Post 6622)
I wasn't far off with 380 lb ft was I. Still a bast*rd to do.

Sounds it! Any idea what the part number is so I can order one? :)

Baggee 05-03-08 02:29 PM

You decided to keep her then Doug :)

Drazic 05-03-08 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baggee (Post 6635)
You decided to keep her then Doug :)

As long as I can I will; money is v.sparse though so don't be surprised if you see her for sale in the future though!:eek:

audivw 05-03-08 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Drazic (Post 6618)
I have an Audi 90 quattro and they advised my mechanic that it was 280nm - have Audi got this wrong then?:eek:


Audi don't have it wrong your spanner man has.:mad::mad:

i have checked and double checked it 450nm

the locking tool is 2084 if only useing this the toque IS 450nm

if useing 2079 & 2084 the touque is 350nm.


tell your spanner man to check & he'll find he's wrong and may end up oweing you a engine rebuild

Puglife 05-03-08 06:34 PM

it doesn't need to be that tight..... Thats overtightening imo.
A neighbour has a white CQ and has had it from new. He has done 155k in it and changed the cambelt twice so far himself, made his own locking tool and only retightens the bolt to 250nm. Never had any problems :)

audivw 05-03-08 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Puglife (Post 6657)
it doesn't need to be that tight..... Thats overtightening imo.
A neighbour has a white CQ and has had it from new. He has done 155k in it and changed the cambelt twice so far himself, made his own locking tool and only retightens the bolt to 250nm. Never had any problems :)

put a question on the quattro forum and see what replys you get it states it in the haynes,bently and on the garage autodata disk if i'm wrong so are all the books.

mine that tight so i can sleep at night knowing that my bolt won't come out.

Drazic 06-03-08 09:30 PM

I've got to admit I'm a little confused - whats the conclusion then?

Audi say its 280 nm which my mechanic has regurgitated to me. Do I need to be loooking for a different tool? I may have to go for a nose though the Haynes Manual I just acquired....:)

audivw 06-03-08 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Drazic (Post 6768)
I may have to go for a nose though the Haynes Manual I just acquired....:)



page 31 haynes says "Crankshaft gear bolt (useing tool 2079) ............................350nm


bentley also say's 350nm but if you don't have the corrcet tool it 450nm.

for :mad: read a book then give it to your spannerman and while your at it go to audi and tell there talking sh#t then shove the book up there nose and learn :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Megsy 07-03-08 12:58 AM

its 450 nm on the UR turbo and 350 nm on the coupe non turbo.I am surprised that the 10v turbo is that tight as it couldn't pull its self out off bed ;) LMFAO


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