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ZermattGT 19-11-09 10:53 PM

Audi 4000s 2dr FS in USA
 
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I figure it's only fair that I post a car many of the forum members covet.
So many are posted over there that we didn't get or can't equitably ship overseas.
Still, a rare car even here.
Enjoy

Its in Oregon not Colorado

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1473278635.html

vag80 19-11-09 11:03 PM

that looks good,so are they that rare in the USA

ZermattGT 19-11-09 11:18 PM

Oh yes.
I've only seen photos of maybe 5.
Rumor is, about 500 made between 1981 and 1983.
Mostly 1982 just before the Coupe was released.

vag80 19-11-09 11:29 PM

so my old girl is quite rare then,i think it may be the only one in the UK i'm trying to find more info out on the car just sent off a form to the DVLA asking for wot info they have on the car i know it was first
registered over here in 1993 once i have that i will see if i can find out about it's history in the USA

Coxy 19-11-09 11:52 PM

are they Scirocco Scala wheels?

aren't you tempted by it Matt?

ZermattGT 19-11-09 11:54 PM

The wheels in the US are called "snowflakes".
Mostly these wheels appeared on our Mk1 GTI's and Cabrios.

Yes I'm tempted but it's nearly 3500 miles away.

ZermattGT 20-11-09 11:33 AM

Coxy I seem to think that these wheels were also called "avus".

ZermattGT 20-11-09 11:35 AM

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Usually on thses. Here's a 1984 GTI

msh 20-11-09 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZermattGT (Post 88433)
Oh yes.
I've only seen photos of maybe 5.
Rumor is, about 500 made between 1981 and 1983.
Mostly 1982 just before the Coupe was released.

Maybe that info is correct, but only for cars intended for US market. I've heard rumor that 2 door saloons with quattro was manufactured only 1000 examples.
That price looks exaggerated.

ZermattGT 20-11-09 11:38 PM

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I don't know the exact numbers MSH. They were low, either way and mostly confined to the 1982 model year. Also mostly to North America.

Coxy and I have discussed this a little. Maybe we should do the research and resolve it for interest sake.

The 2dr cars are mostly sought after for the doors and A pillars as I understand it. The can be cut out to make a Sport Quattro SWB out of a UrQ. The angle of the windscreen was taken from these 2dr's instead of the Coupe because of solar glare. The Coupe/Ur body looks great but the sun comes into the upper corner like a laser.

So, a dedicated fabricator can make a budget Sport Quattro from an Ur and a 2dr 4000.
I understand the sentiment. But its a shame to cut up such a rare car for the doors.
They were a great little car. Torqy motor, good mpg. 30-40

A few survive as whole cars. Most are the 1.8 four cylinder motor that was in the 80 Sport.
Very few (some suggest only 120 Quattros) are the 5+5 Quattro. 5 cyl. and 5 speed. I only now of one in existense in Canada.
Super cool car. The attached is the 1983 80Q in Canada. Originally bought out of Europe.

This one although high mileage, is from a low rust area of the US. It has several "Euro" upgrades and has been driven and maintained.

vag80 21-11-09 12:02 AM

Matt you should buy that silver one, like you say it's a shame these are being cut up for sport reps
but after seeing jamils 1st sport rep WOW i meet him on sunday to pick up my new interior that has come from a 2 door 80 that he is useing to build another sport rep if it's like his frist one this will be the dogs which i would love a go in

msh 21-11-09 06:41 AM

Sounds like again that low production thing was in US and UK but not in germany :D Germans made them all the way until end of B2. Of course, they are rarity, but not so big. I just took a look at www.ss.lv and I found two for sale - http://www.ss.lv/msg/en/transport/ca.../80/bclop.html and http://www.ss.lv/msg/en/transport/ca.../80/ccjpc.html . Ok, both advertisements are old.

I can't understand why some ppls destroys good cars to create short coupes and sq recreations :shake: AWD technology advancements in past twenty years had made had made originals to loose it's sports value but short coupes and sq recreations doesn't have any historical value at all, just scrap + parts value :(

ZermattGT 21-11-09 03:55 PM

Not sure these 2 later 2drs can be used as donor cars for SWB SQ's.
Something looks different (besides the nose).

Either way, thanks for posting these. I was sure that they stopped produccing them by 1983.

volcano rs 28-11-09 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by msh (Post 88629)
Sounds like again that low production thing was in US and UK but not in germany :D Germans made them all the way until end of B2. Of course, they are rarity, but not so big. I just took a look at www.ss.lv and I found two for sale - http://www.ss.lv/msg/en/transport/ca.../80/bclop.html and http://www.ss.lv/msg/en/transport/ca.../80/ccjpc.html . Ok, both advertisements are old.

I can't understand why some ppls destroys good cars to create short coupes and sq recreations :shake: AWD technology advancements in past twenty years had made had made originals to loose it's sports value but short coupes and sq recreations doesn't have any historical value at all, just scrap + parts value :(

these so called scrap sport quatrro reps go for good money and how about near 500 bhp:)

volcano rs 28-11-09 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZermattGT (Post 88728)
Not sure these 2 later 2drs can be used as donor cars for SWB SQ's.
Something looks different (besides the nose).

Either way, thanks for posting these. I was sure that they stopped produccing them by 1983.

both of these are the right ones for the chop:nod:

BIGGYIN 28-11-09 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZermattGT (Post 88483)
Usually on thses. Here's a 1984 GTI

Is that an out board motor on the back?

David Small 29-11-09 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Coxy (Post 88439)
are they Scirocco Scala wheels?

aren't you tempted by it Matt?


Yup Scirocco Scala wheels, I had 3 Scirocco Scala's as company cars , the early ones were colour coded so if the car was white so were the inserts of the wheel design a bugger to keep clean !

They were also standard on the short lived Santana GX5 - a lovely car and VW's answer to the Audi 80CD.

msh 29-11-09 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by volcano rs (Post 90119)
these so called scrap sport quatrro reps go for good money and how about near 500 bhp:)

What u will do with that 500 bhp sq recreation against 500 bhp subaru which goes around corners without powerslide?
P.S. How about 500 bhp? Relatively weak engine, knowing 2.2 20vt capabilities, unfortunately transmission doesn't have such capabilities :ihih:

peanut 29-11-09 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by msh (Post 90137)
What u will do with that 500 bhp sq recreation against 500 bhp subaru which goes around corners without powerslide?
P.S. How about 500 bhp? Relatively weak engine, knowing 2.2 20vt capabilities, unfortunately transmission doesn't have such capabilities :ihih:

I think youre missing the point somewhat, and as far as the 2.2 20vt being weak at 500bhp then the ones you're talking about obviously weren't built properly. Plently of circa 500bhp motors in the s2 world that arent having any issues. And weak transmissions? I dont think so.

msh 29-11-09 09:35 AM

2.2 20vt is capable of 1k bhp [maybe more, I don't know][not in street tune, of course - does anyone use SQ recreation as DD? ] and similar amount of nm, but gearboxes can't withstand that .

quattrokid 29-11-09 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZermattGT (Post 88440)
The wheels in the US are called "snowflakes".
Mostly these wheels appeared on our Mk1 GTI's and Cabrios.

Yes I'm tempted but it's nearly 3500 miles away.

:lol::lol:

your CLOSER to us than to that car:ihih::D:tup:

ZermattGT 29-11-09 01:58 PM

Truth.
Gotta get over there next season.
I'd like to be there for a Midlands and/or ADI.

peanut 29-11-09 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by msh (Post 90143)
2.2 20vt is capable of 1k bhp [maybe more, I don't know][not in street tune, of course - does anyone use SQ recreation as DD? ] and similar amount of nm, but gearboxes can't withstand that .

whats that got to do with 500hp?, thats what you were originally talking about

volcano rs 29-11-09 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 90156)
whats that got to do with 500hp?, thats what you were originally talking about

and subaru is better built car than a audi ? keep dreaming .:wierdo:

peanut 29-11-09 04:10 PM

oi! wasnt me who said that:hmmm:

msh 29-11-09 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by volcano rs (Post 90168)
and subaru is better built car than a audi ? keep dreaming .:wierdo:

It isn't better built, it has better awd, because subaru still improves it with offroad in mind, unlike audi - between B3 and B6 almost no changes at all, except for some electronical addons for everyday's use on paved roads. But B2, UR and SQ, after all, is 25 years old cars. As one man said, "curve spent in slide means lost seconds which is luxury u can't afford when racing today".
I don't like the fact that my audi is equipped with antiquated awd, but that's the way it is :shake: Fortunately I need this car only to move my arse around so it won't be a problem for me :ihih:

volcano rs 29-11-09 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 90172)
oi! wasnt me who said that:hmmm:

sorry i clicked on the wrong post :lol:


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