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stoop44rio 23-09-09 07:25 PM

kv non starter
 
can a petrol engine become air locked? just changed the fuel filter and now have a non starter!! well starts for maybe two seconds then stops:wall: any ideas??:confused:

4v6 23-09-09 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stoop44rio (Post 76461)
can a petrol engine become air locked? just changed the fuel filter and now have a non starter!! well starts for maybe two seconds then stops:wall: any ideas??:confused:


Lol you got the filter on the right way round then? :)

cant become airlocked as the pump will force fuel around the system.
Likely youve disturbed the wiring plugs to the pump perhaps?

stoop44rio 23-09-09 07:46 PM

dont think i did but will double check tomorrow. anything else i could look over?

stoop44rio 23-09-09 07:47 PM

dont think i did but will double check tomorrow. anything else i could look over? it has started once and run for several minutes then cut out and hasnt restarted:fire:

BIGGYIN 23-09-09 08:22 PM

One thing to try,is the fuel pump relay???????
On one of mine,it would start,run for 20 minutes and then cut out.I thought it was dirt in the tank(or clogged,fuel filter),because after leaving it for about 10 minutes,it would start(1st time)again.I thought, it could be the dirt settling back down.
I changed both fuel filters,to find(in the end) it was a faulty fuel pump relay.

stoop44rio 24-09-09 08:37 PM

changed the relay last week also. wheres the second fuel filter? done the one at the pump/ accumulator

mikes2 24-09-09 08:50 PM

it's only the early cars (pre 86) that had the pre-filter.

A non starter on the KV can only be one of two things. spark and fuel. Unless the timing has gone miles out but unlikely in this case

Are you getting spark ?

Are you getting fuel through ?

BIGGYIN 24-10-09 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stoop44rio (Post 76665)
changed the relay last week also. wheres the second fuel filter? done the one at the pump/ accumulator

Did you get her going in the end?
If so what was wrong?

stoop44rio 26-10-09 09:51 PM

only got the car going yesterday!! i've been too busy with work and the house so it sat for at least a month maybe more. turned out to be the cold start valve was flooding the engine so now dis-connected and shes starting fine:rock: only thing is its sounding very tappety which it wasnt before- maybe from lying up for a month or two?:confused:

BIGGYIN 27-10-09 07:24 AM

On my 2nd to last car,they,d done that.(disconnected wire)It started and ran fine to me,without it connected.Maybe for really cold starts?
Noisey tappets.As you said,not run for a bit.
Mine get a little noisey,when i need to top up oil.

BigT80 27-10-09 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stoop44rio (Post 76461)
can a petrol engine become air locked? just changed the fuel filter and now have a non starter!! well starts for maybe two seconds then stops:wall: any ideas??:confused:

A little late to add to this thread, but I also have a KV with similar symptoms. A few months back I had troubles as posted on here, which turned out to be seized pump. Car since been in for some bodywork & now runs like a pile of s**t. Won't run after initial start until coaxed with lots of throttle prodding & gradually building up revs; so thought warm up reg, but when (eventually) warmed would rev, but died as soon as you go to pull away. Tried pump - yet another: & + terminal snapped off the new pump:wall:. taped up connector just to try it & no different. So will try another pump I know is good & then poss Warm up Reg. I wonder if blocked filter would cause it, or accumulator not doing it's job, but I thought that was just to keep pressure in system? I'll have another go tomorrow, but any thoughts meantime? Sorry to highjack thread, but seems you're sorted stoop44rio :)Cheers. G.

mikes2 27-10-09 05:40 PM

Undo the banjo bolt at the strut turret and check for debris - both in the line and also in the banjo itself.

You can use the Z bridge from position 8 in the fuse box in place of the fuel pump relay to run the pump and push fuel through.

If there is any debris, dump a bottle of injector cleaner in the tank.

I've just had this on mine after replacing fuel lines. The banjo bolt was partially blocked. After clearing th debris, the car wouldn't run properly but the injector cleaner has cured that

BigT80 27-10-09 07:46 PM

Thanks for that good advice Mike. Will try that first tomorrow & let you know how it goes. Cheers. G :tup:


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