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jogi730 19-02-18 03:41 PM

Insurance again
 
Same question often asked....... suggestions for companies doing agreed value other than Adrian Flux?
All go through usual information gathering with a promise of a policy only to come back with
'Your car is too highly modified' :wall:

That's exactly the reason I want an Agreed Value policy:wierdo:

Anyone know of a good company (perhaps David Harrison)

SwallownAmazon 19-02-18 04:18 PM

I have my Audi 90 20v and Volvo Amazon rally car insured with these folk:


They are both insured comprehensively for competition use up to international level at very reasonable cost so may be worth a try.
Richard Egger with his wife Pat was an active competitor in stage rallies and they provide on-event road cover for MSA authorised rallies. :tup:

vorsprung durch technik 19-02-18 05:54 PM

Just steer away from anything underwritten by Equity Red Star!

jogi730 19-02-18 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vorsprung durch technik (Post 441296)
Just steer away from anything underwritten by Equity Red Star!

Interesting - bad experience?

jogi730 19-02-18 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwallownAmazon (Post 441284)
I have my Audi 90 20v and Volvo Amazon rally car insured with these folk:


They are both insured comprehensively for competition use up to international level at very reasonable cost so may be worth a try

Did try them, but over £800

vorsprung durch technik 19-02-18 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jogi730 (Post 441298)
Interesting - bad experience?

Yes, got the S6 insured last sept/oct online 2 days before the mot run out. They then flagged up by phone 3 days later saying they needed proof of why my i was only asking for a 3k mileage limit, which i thought strange plus i had to provide details and V5s showing other vehicles i have access too. Basically they didn't believe it. :wierdo: :wall: Total muppets!!!!!!!

This attitude makes me think they're more crooked than anybody out there and sticks in my craw as i'm 100% legit.

I couldn't provide a new mot as it had just expired and the rear brakes were in bits and waiting for new hoses. Despite me explaining i had only done 17 miles since last mot, during the previous 12 months, they wouldn't have it and said they needed a new mot and gave me 7 days to do this or they would cancel. Despite myself trying hard to get the hoses from Bf goodrich, they couldn't produce them quick enough for me to meet the insurance deadline, i canceled on them with them 2 days before the deadline. The broker and underwriter said i would loose £180 of my premium of £213 payed upfront in full.

My reply was "what for 10 days insurance where you know full well the car was not being driven waiting on brake parts". Basically i told them under no circumstances were they going to defraud me of my money and threatened to take it to my MP and the ombudsman. The tel operator said hold on a minute, and after 5 mins came back and said they were waving all their fees and that i would only loose the underwriter part of it £33 to Equity red star.

Don't forget to remember, when your asked for insurance you have to declare if you've ever been declined or had insurance cancelled. This will make you laugh!! So in January i go to get the car insured again with another broker who's put me with Equity Red Star for it to come back as i've had a policy cancelled on me. Exasperated i explained it's complete bull. I cancelled on them because of their ridiculous demands 2 days before the deadline. Luckily my new broker found a better quote for me than i got on line and didn't hold it against me but i can assure you the trouble and strife it's caused me not to mention false data held against me is worrying and will likely come up again.

I've got maximum ncb and 1 speeding fine doing 37 in 30 zone. All cars insured motd and taxed properly and squeaky clean. I've never know accompany like it, you can't just declare a 3000 mile classic policy, you'll have to show all the other cars you have to drive with V5 proof otherwise they're saying why was your total mileage so low? Personally i think it's scam between Equity red star and the brokers.

Good luck.

jogi730 19-02-18 09:25 PM

Wow, that's some story.
I just checked and I was underwritten by Red Star though Adrian Flux.
I certainly didn't share your experience maybe because of the age and all the mods on my car, it's fairly obvious it would not be a daily driver.
I'm in a very difficult position though. As I always complain this time of year,finding a company to quote with AV declaring all the mods, Adrian Flux are the only company that delivers. Reis as recommended above did give me a quote. I have however been here before - I get a quote and then some MG specialist decides my car is only worth £15k.
I've had this car since 1997 and never made a claim on it. It's obvioiusly a keeper and at my age, I think it highly unlikely would run a scam of some sort.
All I am after is protecting my pride and joy and should the worse happen and my car is written off or has a fire, I want to be able to replace it. Isn't that what insurance is for?
That is why I am trying to find Agreed Value. I did phone Sky and a few others that offer this, but not on my car due to the power and mods.
I do know of someone that was with AF. They wrote his car off following being hit from the side by a third party. They offered him nowhere near the value. It was not until a couple of letters from his solicitors that they finally settled. So even when you do things with the best honest intentions, the insurers make it as difficult to get a pay out as possible. So what can one do?

vorsprung durch technik 19-02-18 09:32 PM

Yep what you've written above shows how exasperating insurance is!!

Did you not hear that last year or 18 months ago that Adrian Flux and Equity red star insurance was not worth the paper it was written on. There was major problem which worried me at thew time as i was with Flux. Something about about you wouldn't get paid out. I'm not joking this was brought up on the forum here and on S2 forum.

We have 5 Audis currently on the road, just bought another A2, i'm 52 so they know full well i'm no youngster and have access to other vehicles.

jogi730 20-02-18 12:05 PM

FYI,
Went with A Plan following a recommendation on S2Forum .
Quoted £90 less than Adrian Flux and not with ERS which apparently is a good thing.
I don't want to count my chickens just yet, as I have been here before with the insurer falling down at the last hurdle and offering half Agreed Value following thier 'independant (MG specilaist)' valuation, or withdrawing it due to the number of modifications.

​​​​​​​A Plan modified vehicle number - 01635 874646
They do classic car as well

SwallownAmazon 21-02-18 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jogi730 (Post 441341)
FYI,
Went with A Plan following a recommendation on S2Forum .

​​​​​​​A Plan modified vehicle number - 01635 874646
They do classic car as well

I tried A-Plan when I acquired my BMW 740 Sport last year as they are the recommended insurer for BMW Owners Club. Can't remember the precise figures now but their quote was more than double what I eventually paid to "The Nodding Dog" (Churchill or UK Insurance, formerly Prudential) with whom I have just renewed. :tup:

The Audi & Volvo are still insured with REIS under their Classic Car scheme. The BMW will probably go there when it's eligible (20 years old).

jogi730 21-02-18 04:39 PM

Yes insurance is certainly one area where you sit and scratch your head in wonderment how they come out with their prices.
Most Classic Car policies will not touch my car due to all the mods. Those that do will offer only 'market value'.
Reis came out almost double the premium and without AV in my case.

Hanuman 21-02-18 05:22 PM

I personally find most insurance in the UK to be inept bordering on corrupt.

I was with Equity via Classicline, the year my car was involved in the hit-n-run. The brokers made a complete hash of it, and I was bombarded with spam claims assistance bollocks for months. The claim was all resolved amicably with me doing my own negotiations with the other driver's insurance indirectly, and eventually getting a cash settlement. My own broker (and Equity) had been attempting to write off the car through the 'repair quote' which their own approved network inflated out of all proportion.

I'm no longer with them- the renewal quote that appeared shortly after was incredible. Limited mileage policies, but I thought I'd turned 18 again, the quote had increased that much. Classicline will not be getting business from me again.


LV didn't exactly distinguish themselves last year, with the same car. However, it proved worthwhile renewing with them simply because they didn't inflate the renewal cost due to the very minor accident that resulted in no claim being filed.

The whole system is so mired in bureaucratic bull, and populated by utter prats, it high time there was a clean sheet change of method. Unfortunately, too many unemployable people would suddenly be on the job market, which the bods at high command would stomach.

for a daily use low value car, I'd almost certainly recommend choosing the cheapest product available to stay legal, and then make every effort to avoid making a claim.

The biggest problem with insurance is that you won't know the quality of the product until you test it, by which time you're unlikely to be able to return it.

jogi730 21-02-18 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanuman (Post 441387)
The biggest problem with insurance is that you won't know the quality of the product until you test it, by which time you're unlikely to be able to return it.


I think you have hit the nail on the head.
You get slaughtered by the law for not insuring your vehicle it there seems to be little you
can do when you need them and they don't play ball

arthurious 21-03-18 06:01 PM

carol nash do what you wont

jogi730 21-03-18 08:31 PM

Thanks, I didn't try them this year, but in the past have come back with my car has too many modifications :nonod:

Edit: I went with A plan as suggested by a member on S2Forum

jogi730 03-03-21 02:25 PM

It is that time of year again.
Thought I would give A Plan a shout. I have just renewed through their Cherished Car Division - All modifications declared with £35k AV, £310 with breakdown cover.
They also promised to phone me back on a given day and actually did. Obviously wanted my business, but still something I am not accustomed to. :tup:
Worth giving them a shout.


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