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Chrismcnaz 30-08-13 06:51 AM

UR Q Fuel lines needed.
 
Hi guys,

I'm after a set of fuel lines for my 85 UR Quattro. Ideally I would love a set of new original ones but am having trouble tracking them down (hens teeth spring to mind).

Does any one have a spare set i could buy or any idea of what to use for replacements? I didnt really want to go down the road of having to bend my own from scratch out of kunifer, but now I'm thinking that I will have to.

Cheers

Hoyle 30-08-13 08:24 AM

I'm sure the fuel lines are NLA. I went down the kunifer bending route, it was tricky on axle stands, but do-able. Some members have used plastic lines too - see mrpat's 80q thread.

Hoyle

matt_c 30-08-13 08:51 AM

Yep been NLA for the Ur Quattro for a couple of years now.

Daveymaclad 30-08-13 08:55 AM

I got mine all redone, in metal, by the garage I used in Bournemouth. They just bought a few lengths of metal pipe (graded for fuel lines!) and worked it into shape. Worked a treat and all in all wasn't too expensive!

Hoyle 30-08-13 09:16 AM

Mine cost about £35 for 25ft of 5/16 kunifer, then just used basic bending and flaring tools.

Had the old ones off and new ones on within a day.

lefthooker 30-08-13 09:29 AM

Remove the old fuel lines, take them as they are without bending them to a half decent garage/workshop and they will make new ones, probably out of kunifer, refit and forget.

Hoyle 30-08-13 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lefthooker (Post 323003)
Remove the old fuel lines, take them as they are without bending them to a half decent garage/workshop and they will make new ones, probably out of kunifer, refit and forget.

It's easier said than done. I had to bend mine at the front where they head up (in my case over the rack and under the battery tray - early type with the master cyl on the pass side). It's difficult when the car is on axle stands. If ramp access was available, it'd be 10x easier!

lefthooker 30-08-13 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoyle (Post 323004)
It's easier said than done. I had to bend mine at the front where they head up (in my case over the rack and under the battery tray - early type with the master cyl on the pass side). It's difficult when the car is on axle stands. If ramp access was available, it'd be 10x easier!

A ramp of course would make life easier, but sufficient height is quite easy to achieve with decent axle stands. Roger Galvin has already outlined things that can be done to make access and removal of fuel lines easier in the earlier thread on this subject.

The lines can be removed intact particularly given there's no battery tray to contend with, and even unbolting the steering rack and moving it out of the way slightly would help. A decent workshop can bend new pipes using the old ones as a pattern.

It's not a nice job, but done right in the first place and it need never be done again.

Roger Galvin 30-08-13 12:45 PM

Lefthooker & Hoyle are quite right it is do-able, even on axle stands, as Lefthooker points out I did comment quite extensively on this topic in the last week or two. However, takes about 4/5 hours on the ramp depending on how co-operative the car is. Genuine replacements are NLA, but were priced at about £75 plus VAT each so even if you find someone other than me who still has some they are going to want about £200. Cranwell, Lincolnshire is only 68.1miles from The quattro Workshop so get it on a trailer. I'll stick it on the ramp and make it some new pipes in 5/16th cunifer. The overall cost won't be substantially any different and you wont have to buy a flaring kit that you may never use again, spend a day grovelling on the garage floor covered in fuel and as always you get my personal guarantee the job will be right!

Hoyle 30-08-13 12:49 PM

There's an offer not to be turned down :tup:

lefthooker 30-08-13 01:01 PM

Yep a good offer. Even if you affect a temporary repair for now with rubber pipe and clips to where the leak is, it will at least mean the car is running and mobile and then capable of being trailered to Roger's. Or, do a fuel tight repair and wait till it's on the road and can be driven there.

Chrismcnaz 01-09-13 04:57 PM

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you guys, been away with work unexpectedly!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Galvin (Post 323032)
Lefthooker & Hoyle are quite right it is do-able, even on axle stands, as Lefthooker points out I did comment quite extensively on this topic in the last week or two. However, takes about 4/5 hours on the ramp depending on how co-operative the car is. Genuine replacements are NLA, but were priced at about £75 plus VAT each so even if you find someone other than me who still has some they are going to want about £200. Cranwell, Lincolnshire is only 68.1miles from The quattro Workshop so get it on a trailer. I'll stick it on the ramp and make it some new pipes in 5/16th cunifer. The overall cost won't be substantially any different and you wont have to buy a flaring kit that you may never use again, spend a day grovelling on the garage floor covered in fuel and as always you get my personal guarantee the job will be right!

Wow Roger thats a fantastic offer thank you, you dont happen to do bodywork welding as well do you?

Hanuman 01-09-13 05:50 PM

It's a set of fuel lines to be fabricated. I'm sure that somewhere local can be found without having to haul the car about on a trailer. Then at least the work can be monitored without driving what are significant distances.

Roger Galvin 02-09-13 04:01 PM

As they say Chris the choice is yours. Someone who has done it a couple of dozen times before, or the local garage who have never encountered a quattro previously or do it yourself. Err welding, yes I do welding but my bodyshop would do it much better. What's the issue, am I getting the impression that this is a stalled project with a heap of work needed?

Chrismcnaz 02-09-13 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Galvin (Post 323487)
As they say Chris the choice is yours. Someone who has done it a couple of dozen times before, or the local garage who have never encountered a quattro previously or do it yourself. Err welding, yes I do welding but my bodyshop would do it much better. What's the issue, am I getting the impression that this is a stalled project with a heap of work needed?

As you say Roger, it's a choice I need to make. As far as the welding goes, it's a few bits around the car and finishing the rear drivers wheel arch. The chap who was doing it has been busy and I'm getting impatient to have her finished so I can get her painted. Funilly enough, tonight the small bits are being welded so it would appear that we are moving forward again at last.

Roger Galvin 03-09-13 01:12 PM

Usual problem Chris, relying on other people who's agenda and timescale is never the same as yours. Body shops can be the worst, the simplest tasks seem to take forever. Let me know how you're doing with them the welding.

As an aside my trailer is off the road needing a new lock mechanism at the moment but in principle once sorted there is nothing to stop the alloard dragging it in your direction.


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