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Gouldy 01-12-10 04:35 PM

Brakes are awful
 
hi guys

was wondering if there is a way to check the brake "bomb" on my audi ,

the brakes have never worked very well and need to be stood on for anything to happen, the discs and pads have plenty left on them too

thanks

Jim

4v6 01-12-10 04:50 PM

Youre supposed to pump the pedal with the engine off and it should supply servo assistance for a certain number of depressions.
Should be on Phil Paynes isham research website.

Emjay 01-12-10 05:05 PM

welcome to the world of 1980's braking power. Mines pretty shit too but my benchmark for comparison is a 2007 Volvo and Volvo brakes do tend to stop you on a sixpence

missfire 01-12-10 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4v6 (Post 180241)
Youre supposed to pump the pedal with the engine off and it should supply servo assistance for a certain number of depressions.
Should be on Phil Paynes isham research website.

at least 10 depressions with engine 'just turned off'

or full lock (if you have p.a.s.) and pump it with engine running.

if light comes on after 3 (all of mine do!:lol:) bad bomb

just get bigger legs..cheaper

Gouldy 01-12-10 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4v6 (Post 180241)
Youre supposed to pump the pedal with the engine off and it should supply servo assistance for a certain number of depressions.
Should be on Phil Paynes isham research website.

so i should feel the pedal getting harder each time

missfire 01-12-10 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouldy (Post 180253)
so i should feel the pedal getting harder each time

no

10 with servo

then hard as a rock ( if its good)

missfire 01-12-10 05:49 PM

or like mine

2/3 with servo

then hard as a rock:lol:

Gouldy 01-12-10 05:49 PM

spot on , cheers mate, will try this tomorrow

mikes2 01-12-10 06:07 PM

No brake bomb on a Coupe GT

Gouldy 01-12-10 06:16 PM

ah right,hmmmmm

well i will see what the servo does when i pump it anyway

quattro777 01-12-10 06:26 PM

I got a shock when I drove the 100 for the first time, they do need a good shove! big difference from the A6.

stuartmmcfc 01-12-10 06:31 PM

I have to be careful when i swap from the quattro into the Festa- I nearly go through the windscreen at first :lol:

Phil Payne 01-12-10 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikes2 (Post 180264)
No brake bomb on a Coupe GT

True - vacuum reservoir. Your MityVac is your friend.

Phil Payne 01-12-10 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quattro777 (Post 180270)
I got a shock when I drove the 100 for the first time, they do need a good shove! big difference from the A6.

No they don't. The problem is a combination of reporting tolerance in the senders and ageing in all the components.

When you work through an ur-quattro or Type 44 braking system and restore EVERYTHING to nominal the brakes are excellent.

Most of the 'Porsche monoblock' and similar upgrades done to 1980s quattros are pointless Band-Aids to a sub-optimal braking system.

Martc 01-12-10 08:01 PM

Main difference I found on my CQ was the following:

I changed all of the pads and disks and refurbed the callipers and the brakes were pretty rubbish even after all of that.

Next thing I did was change the brake flexible hoses, what a complete difference, firm pedal and much better braking efficiency, the car I think now stops as its intended to.

4v6 01-12-10 08:34 PM

Overhauled the coupe brakes on my poor old gt and they were absolutely fine.
Never had any cause for concern with them.

Gouldy 01-12-10 08:41 PM

hmmm, well i may invest in some new brake hoses then , no doubt they could do with being changed anyway tbh

Isimmo 01-12-10 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Payne (Post 180290)
When you work through an ur-quattro or Type 44 braking system and restore EVERYTHING to nominal the brakes are excellent.

This is true, I had my eyes opened up to this at Castle Combe this year, on track, in a quattro, with standard single pot brakes and uprated pads... It's braking ability was astonishingly good. competition standard almost.


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